[Media] California requires 6_000 hours of training to identify junk email

[Andrzej Adam Filip]

https://www.dailynews.com/2023/11/21/california-requires-6000-hours-of-training-to-identify-junk-email/

California requires 6,000 hours of training to identify junk email
By Dylan Moore
PUBLISHED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m. | UPDATED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m.
How many hours of training does it take to determine whether an email
belongs in your junk folder? For most people, the answer is probably
“zero.” But the California Bureau of Security and Investigative
Services says you need 6,000 hours of experience before you can
identify spam *for a living* . […]

How much should you be paid after required 6_000 hours of training? :-)

[Grant Taylor]

Post by Andrzej Adam Filip
How much should you be paid after required 6_000 hours of training? :-)

How much are doctors / lawyers / etc. paid after multiple years earning
degrees in their field?

There is a big difference in doing something professionally with
certification vs doing for yourself.

You probably aren't going to sue yourself. Professionals may very well
be sued by senders and / or recipients.



Grant. . . .

[The Doctor]

Post by Andrzej Adam Filip
https://www.dailynews.com/2023/11/21/california-requires-6000-hours-of-training-to-identify-junk-email/

California requires 6,000 hours of training to identify junk email
By Dylan Moore
PUBLISHED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m. | UPDATED: November 21,

2023 at 11:00 a.m.

How many hours of training does it take to determine whether an email
belongs in your junk folder? For most people, the answer is probably
“zero.” But the California Bureau of Security and Investigative
Services says you need 6,000 hours of experience before you can
identify spam *for a living* . [
]

How much should you be paid after required 6_000 hours of training? :-)

Where did this junk originate from
?

Post by Andrzej Adam Filip
--
A. Filip

[Andrzej Adam Filip]

Post by The Doctor

Post by Andrzej Adam Filip
https://www.dailynews.com/2023/11/21/california-requires-6000-hours-of-training-to-identify-junk-email/

California requires 6,000 hours of training to identify junk email
By Dylan Moore
PUBLISHED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m. | UPDATED: November 21,

2023 at 11:00 a.m.

How many hours of training does it take to determine whether an
email belongs in your junk folder? For most people, the answer is
probably “zero.â€. But the California Bureau of Security and
Investigative Services says you need 6,000 hours of experience
before you can identify spam *for a living*.

How much should you be paid after required 6_000 hours of training? :-)

Where did this junk originate from
?

Google alerts had included it om my "spam" related news (not usenet) alerts.

[Andreas Kohlbach]

Post by Andrzej Adam Filip
https://www.dailynews.com/2023/11/21/california-requires-6000-hours-of-training-to-identify-junk-email/

California requires 6,000 hours of training to identify junk email
By Dylan Moore
PUBLISHED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m. | UPDATED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m.
How many hours of training does it take to determine whether an email
belongs in your junk folder? For most people, the answer is probably
“zero.” But the California Bureau of Security and Investigative
Services says you need 6,000 hours of experience before you can
identify spam *for a living* . […]

How much should you be paid after required 6_000 hours of training? :-)

I am trained with 245952 [1] hours. Suppose I am overqualified? What'd
they pay me?

[1] Have internet since 1995, 28 years ago, and spam from the first day I
recognised.

[John Levine]

Post by Andrzej Adam Filip
https://www.dailynews.com/2023/11/21/california-requires-6000-hours-of-training-to-identify-junk-email/

California requires 6,000 hours of training to identify junk email
By Dylan Moore
PUBLISHED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m. | UPDATED: November 21, 2023 at 11:00 a.m.
How many hours of training does it take to determine whether an email
belongs in your junk folder? For most people, the answer is probably
“zero.” But the California Bureau of Security and Investigative
Services says you need 6,000 hours of experience before you can
identify spam *for a living* . [
]

I really wish that people would read the article rather than guess (wrong) about what it says.

tl:dr The guy does spam sorting to prepare for anti-spam lawsuits, and
the state of California told him that makes him a private investigator
which needs a license and all that training. The PI training is not
absurd for an actual PI who does stakeouts or arson investigation but
is silly here.

The "article" is actually a lightly reworked press release from the
Institute for Justice, a libertarian think tank whose lawyers are
helping him sue the state.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Post by John Levine

. . .

I really wish that people would read the article rather than guess
(wrong) about what it says.
tl:dr The guy does spam sorting to prepare for anti-spam lawsuits, and
the state of California told him that makes him a private investigator
which needs a license and all that training. The PI training is not
absurd for an actual PI who does stakeouts or arson investigation but
is silly here.
The "article" is actually a lightly reworked press release from the
Institute for Justice, a libertarian think tank whose lawyers are
helping him sue the state.

They are a civil rights law firm taking on cases protecting individual
liberty from government excess in instances in which the legal fees
would otherwise exceed the judgment and a private lawsuit is
unaffordable. They are actually very well thought of. They can afford to
accept very few plaintiffs, however.

[John Levine]

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by John Levine
tl:dr The guy does spam sorting to prepare for anti-spam lawsuits, and
the state of California told him that makes him a private investigator
which needs a license and all that training. The PI training is not
absurd for an actual PI who does stakeouts or arson investigation but
is silly here.
The "article" is actually a lightly reworked press release from the
Institute for Justice, a libertarian think tank whose lawyers are
helping him sue the state.

They are a civil rights law firm taking on cases protecting individual
liberty from government excess in instances in which the legal fees
would otherwise exceed the judgment and a private lawsuit is
unaffordable. They are actually very well thought of. They can afford to
accept very few plaintiffs, however.

IJ does a lot more than litigation; see their web site at ij.org and
their various podcasts like Short Circuit.

I find that about 2/3 of the time I agree with what they want, the
other 1/3 is libertarian silliness.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Post by John Levine

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by John Levine
tl:dr The guy does spam sorting to prepare for anti-spam lawsuits, and
the state of California told him that makes him a private investigator
which needs a license and all that training. The PI training is not
absurd for an actual PI who does stakeouts or arson investigation but
is silly here.
The "article" is actually a lightly reworked press release from the
Institute for Justice, a libertarian think tank whose lawyers are
helping him sue the state.

They are a civil rights law firm taking on cases protecting individual
liberty from government excess in instances in which the legal fees
would otherwise exceed the judgment and a private lawsuit is
unaffordable. They are actually very well thought of. They can afford to
accept very few plaintiffs, however.

IJ does a lot more than litigation; see their web site at ij.org and
their various podcasts like Short Circuit.
I find that about 2/3 of the time I agree with what they want, the
other 1/3 is libertarian silliness.

You want 7 noisy simultaneous arguments? Put two libertarians in the same
room.

[The Doctor]

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by John Levine

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by John Levine
tl:dr The guy does spam sorting to prepare for anti-spam lawsuits, and
the state of California told him that makes him a private investigator
which needs a license and all that training. The PI training is not
absurd for an actual PI who does stakeouts or arson investigation but
is silly here.
The "article" is actually a lightly reworked press release from the
Institute for Justice, a libertarian think tank whose lawyers are
helping him sue the state.

They are a civil rights law firm taking on cases protecting individual
liberty from government excess in instances in which the legal fees
would otherwise exceed the judgment and a private lawsuit is
unaffordable. They are actually very well thought of. They can afford to
accept very few plaintiffs, however.

IJ does a lot more than litigation; see their web site at ij.org and
their various podcasts like Short Circuit.
I find that about 2/3 of the time I agree with what they want, the
other 1/3 is libertarian silliness.

You want 7 noisy simultaneous arguments? Put two libertarians in the same
room.

;-)