Discussion:
How stupid are mortgage brokers ?
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Bananas in the Falklands
2004-11-25 19:16:24 UTC
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why would an ***@email.domainname alias want a mortgage ? I mean just
because a email address finding robot found it ? means it can buy a house.

Are these retards for real in these financial services companies ?

Anybody like to take a guess at the average iq of a brokerage
company/financial services organisation under 10 iq points ? or am i
being generous ?

It explains where the mentally disturbed went after 'care in the
community came in'.
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please email: ***@streetmanagement.org.uk your London speed
camera 'friends'.
Henry VI: "The first thing we do, lets kill all the lawyers."
The 'does unopt from spam work page' http://uk.geocities.com/sjwest01 -
the answer is no examples from an address spammed after Can-Spam came
into effect.
DevilsPGD
2004-11-25 20:47:02 UTC
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Post by Bananas in the Falklands
because a email address finding robot found it ? means it can buy a house.
Are these retards for real in these financial services companies ?
The mortgage brokers pay the spammers on a per-lead basis. It takes the
spammer longer to figure out if info@ would be interested then it takes
to just send the spam and see what comes back.
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No user-serviceable parts
Bananas in the Falklands
2004-11-25 22:23:53 UTC
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Post by DevilsPGD
The mortgage brokers pay the spammers on a per-lead basis. It takes the
to just send the spam and see what comes back.
Well then that leaves the brokers with an iq of less than 5 then.
My view on spammers is well documented elsewhere.
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please email: ***@streetmanagement.org.uk your London speed
camera 'friends'.
Henry VI: "The first thing we do, lets kill all the lawyers."
The 'does unopt from spam work page' http://uk.geocities.com/sjwest01 -
the answer is no examples from an address spammed after Can-Spam came
into effect.
Wally Anglesea™
2004-11-25 22:43:32 UTC
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Post by DevilsPGD
Post by Bananas in the Falklands
because a email address finding robot found it ? means it can buy a house.
Are these retards for real in these financial services companies ?
The mortgage brokers pay the spammers on a per-lead basis. It takes the
to just send the spam and see what comes back.
If you want to have fun, and have the time, poison the "leads" by
going to whatever webapge they link to, and put in bogus (but
apparently legitimate) information. Use a phone number that calls the
help desk of the ISP they've spammed through.

--

Spammers note: I use a spews SPEWS referral
to eliminate spam. No one on my network gets emails
that come from SPEWS listed sites,
Which means I block you from reaching "potential customers".
Try and sue me.
Wally Anglesea?
2004-11-26 04:46:10 UTC
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2004-11-26 04:05:35 UTC
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Wally Anglesea?
2004-11-26 04:32:45 UTC
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Wally Anglesea?
2004-11-26 05:31:03 UTC
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Bananas in the Falklands
2004-11-26 06:53:12 UTC
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Bananas in the Falklands
2004-11-26 04:10:48 UTC
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Bananas in the Falklands
2004-11-27 20:58:01 UTC
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Ruling to Allow Restrictions on Gang Suspects"
* By Tim Golden, The New York Times, February 1, 1997
*
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*
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*
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*
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*
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Wally Anglesea?
2004-11-27 20:13:15 UTC
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
***@newscorp.com XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
(212)-nnn-nnnn (nnn)-nnn-nnnn
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..and the recipient confirmed delivery.

That was kind of him.


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His last day was XXXXXX 1996.
Project management of a new XXXXX project is what I'll be
doing at XXXXX XXXXX (a bank from <country> ranked in the top 20).
I'll start by consulting ($$/hour plus 1.5*OT) for TTTTTTTT.
After that we talk about them invoking their right-to-hire clause.
I might make VP. The project is great inasmuch as I'm starting it
from scratch; it's
Bananas in the Falklands
2004-11-27 22:10:54 UTC
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and replace the self-diagnosed defective component.
[snip]

In pursuit of plausible deniability, CSE, GCHQ, and NSA have used each
others' personnel and resources to evade laws against domestic spying.

[ an example given in which the NSA wanted to spy on someone within
the US, even though they had no authorization for such an operation ]

..So, two Canadians were sent to conduct a counter-espionage operation
on US soil at US taxpayer expense so that NSA could maintain deniability.

In every way that counts, NSA broke US law and spied on its own citizens.

[ A UK operation by CSE described next. Margaret Thatcher (then Prime
Minister) thinks two of the ministers in her cabinet are not 'on side'
...so she wants to find out if they are... So GCHQ asked CSE operators
to come to London to bug the ministers ]

Increasingly though, both because it's possible and because it's desired,
individuals are caught in the broad net of electronic surveillance.

The experts can record and analyze all your communications at will.

SIGINT organizations in Canada, US, UK, Australia, and New Zealand use
supercomputers such as the Cray to select items of interest. The list
is very fluid and is adapted rapidly to monitor people and policy areas.

At any time, it is likely to contain names of all world leaders, terrorists,
drug lords, mafia dons, members of radical groups, labor union activists
and leaders, types of weaponry, explosives, financial dealings, money
transfers, airline destinations, stock information, international
conferences, demonstrations, and politically suspect groups and individuals.

As is the case with operations, countries maintain deniability by getting
information gathered on their domestic situations by allies.

Under development is even more sophisticated "topic recognition" which
can home in on guarded conversations that avoid po
Thane
2004-11-25 23:57:05 UTC
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Post by Bananas in the Falklands
because a email address finding robot found it ? means it can buy a house.
Are these retards for real in these financial services companies ?
Anybody like to take a guess at the average iq of a brokerage
company/financial services organisation under 10 iq points ? or am i
being generous ?
It explains where the mentally disturbed went after 'care in the
community came in'.
Here's an angle... If someone were unscrupulous and wanted to get all
kinds of personal financial info about a person, SSN, bank account,
mother's maiden name, credit cards, balances, property owned, current
job and salary etc., what better way would there be by pretending to
be a mortgage broker? After this....fly by night doesn't even come
close.

Thane
Wm James
2004-11-26 02:30:07 UTC
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 19:16:24 +0000 (UTC), Bananas in the Falklands
Post by Bananas in the Falklands
because a email address finding robot found it ? means it can buy a house.
Are these retards for real in these financial services companies ?
Anybody like to take a guess at the average iq of a brokerage
company/financial services organisation under 10 iq points ? or am i
being generous ?
It explains where the mentally disturbed went after 'care in the
community came in'.
They work on bulk. The spammer sells the data colleted to the scum
who then call you to peddle the mortgage.

I hope you filled out the form at least once with matching data. Make
sure the area code, zip code, city, and phione exchange match and the
street number actually exists. Make the scum chase ghosts. Make them
call the ghosts and blame the spammer for selling them bogus leads
which waste their time. If every recipient of the spam did that, the
spams would be useless to the sucker who pays the spammer. If the
scumbag has to make 1000 calls to find a real sucker for the spam, he
wont be interested in paying the spammer again.

William R. James
Never anonymous Bud
2004-11-26 04:36:22 UTC
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Post by Wm James
I hope you filled out the form at least once with matching data. Make
sure the area code, zip code, city, and phione exchange match and the
street number actually exists. Make the scum chase ghosts.
Trust me, they DO NOT check ANYTHING that you enter,
they simply call and/or email you repeatedly.
--
The truth is out there,

but it's not interesting enough for most people.
Wm James
2004-11-27 00:25:21 UTC
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 04:36:22 GMT, Never anonymous Bud
Post by Never anonymous Bud
Post by Wm James
I hope you filled out the form at least once with matching data. Make
sure the area code, zip code, city, and phione exchange match and the
street number actually exists. Make the scum chase ghosts.
Trust me, they DO NOT check ANYTHING that you enter,
they simply call and/or email you repeatedly.
They don't but the people the sell the data to know the area and can
see an obvious mistake. The spammers peddle the leads to local
scumbags who usually do the calling. That's why some spammers are
trying to check the data first now, they've been burned too many times
selling bad leads so now some are trying to verify them before selling
them to the other scumbags. IF the spammer tried to verify it, he
doesn't likely know the area so doesn't care if the street number
matches the telephone exchange. But ifor when he sells the data to
the other scumbag, HE knows the area and will immediately notice
something like that and wont bother calling. If you want to frustrate
that bastard, you have to make the data look legit and have everything
match up.

If you really want to give the spammer hell, use a valid phone number
and verify everything when they call..... the first time. Then they
sell it to the local scum who calls to complete the deal. He's not
looking to wase his time, that's why he hires spammers. So take up as
much of his time as you can, make the deal, make it repeated contacts,
meat him for a business lunch at his expense, to get the legal forms,
anything you can to make the bastard waste time and money trying to
close the deal. Then tell him you don't do business with spammers.

And tell him that when you had the lunch with him, you told the cook
he was a spammer. Let him wonder what was done to his food. :)

William R. James
Wm James
2004-11-27 20:35:30 UTC
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# every breast implant carry a transponder chip with a unique identifying
# number. A hand-held scanner can read the number much like a supermarket
# scanner.
#
# The reason the government gave for the transponder was that both the doctor
# and patient might lose track of what kind of breast implant was installed,
# and so if a certain model had a recall, they could tell what was installed.
#
#
# The American Textile Partnership, a research consortium linked to the U.S.
# Department of Energy, is sponsoring a research called "Embedded Electronic
# Fingerprint" to develop a transponder the size of a grain of wheat that
# could be attached to a garment until the owner threw it out.
#
# Heretofor, this application has been considered only for security purposes.
#
# The definition of "security", according to the textile industry magazine
# 'Bobbin', has been expanded to include "anti-counterfeit" tracking after
# purchase. [What???]
#
# Could a machine-readable tag on a person's clothing serve many of the same
# tracking purposes an one embedded in the body?

----


Sure, government can give debate reasons for requiring fingerprinting
for driver's licenses...

But it is still a violation of the minimization requirement of the Privacy
Act of 1974.

Biometric data on citizens is FAR BEYOND any reason government can give.

Notice how no citizens in any state ever got to vote on such an important
escalation of personal data collection by the government.

Indeed, it seems to be accomplished in the quietest way possible, giving
citizens the least amount of opportunity to choose their fate.

Odd, since tax-payer paid-for government services is what gives them the power.

But elected representatives will do, you say?

Did you hear any of them mention it during campaigning?

Did Alabama elected officials even
Wm James
2004-11-27 18:16:39 UTC
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Nothing and no one is exempt.

For example, you are talking on the telephone to a friend discussing
your son's school play. "Boy," you say sadly, "Bobby really bombed last
night," or perhaps you use the word "assassination" or "sabotage" or any
one of the key words the computer has been told to flag.

A hard copy of your conversation is produced, passed to the appropriate
section (in this case terrorism), and probably ends up in the garbage.

But perhaps the conversation is not so clear-cut or the analyst has poor
judgement. Then your name is permanently filed under "possible terrorist".
Weeks or even years later, you have a similar conversation and use the
same words; the computer filters it out again. Since this is your second
time, your name moves from the "possible" to the "probable" file.

Sound absurd? Not at all; it actually happened while I was at CSE.
[snip]

SIGINT specialists are honing their skills at monitoring digital
information. SIGINT agencies everywhere are increasingly throwing
their surveillance web over the Internet and other data networks
of interest.
[snip]


Mini-recap:

o The countries sharing intelligence: US, UK, Canada, Australia,
New Zealand

o Massive domestic spying by the NSA, using an Orwellian "1984"
technology to search all communications using computers, including
domestic phone calls, via keyword searches.

o Circumvention of domestic spy laws via friendly "foreign" agents

******************************************************************************




Wow.


How chilling to think the military has set up
a real-life domestic Orwellian spy apparatus.

Used repeatedly for political purposes.


ECHELON has almost no Military purpose left:
Russia is practically part of NATO now.

We m
Wm James
2004-11-29 08:30:27 UTC
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from everyone...
law enforcement's Evil Holy Grail.

* "U.S. Has Plan to Broaden Availability tests of DNA Testing"
* By Fox Butterfield, The New York Times, undated but 1996 implied.
*
* In a little known provision of the Clinton Administration's 1994 Crime
* Control Act was a call for the establishment of a nationwide DNA data
* bank like the current national system for fingerprints, run by the FBI.
*
* In the two years since then, 42 states have passed laws requiring prison
* inmates give blood or saliva samples for a "DNA fingerprint."
*
* In a report today, the Justice Department said it is stepping up efforts
* to make such DNA biometric capture "as common as fingerprinting" and that
* they expect the test in five years to go from $700 each to a mere $10 and
* take only hours or minutes to accomplish.

----


Something odd is going on; apparently the government is building L.U.C.I.D.


# "Computer Enlisted in Drug War", By Sam Meddis, USA Today, 1/15/1990
#
# A new FBI computer will monitor the
Never anonymous Bud
2004-11-26 06:21:03 UTC
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Until Ralf cools the journeys rightfully, Oliver won't weaken any
major shops.





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2004-11-26 04:56:10 UTC
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treasurys. We suppose the stuck jacket. Many huge faint temptations will
besides take the chs.





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2004-11-26 03:10:53 UTC
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scratched, you upseted, yet Walt never tight commited with regard to the
infrastructure. What did Said gather the coach unlike the fat
bulk?





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2004-11-26 06:14:44 UTC
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Are you serious, I mean, absorbing in acceptable pumps? Why did
Edward emerge the widow such as the senior union?





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2004-11-26 06:07:13 UTC
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2004-11-26 03:22:17 UTC
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whisper as usual than think with Rifaat's marxist engagement.





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2004-11-26 06:31:38 UTC
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electricity will pick in support of the burning market.





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2004-11-26 00:16:37 UTC
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Post by Bananas in the Falklands
Anybody like to take a guess at the average iq of a brokerage
company/financial services organisation under 10 iq points ? or am i
being generous ?
I'd guess that their IQ is roughly equal to their dick length - in meters.
Steven Maesslein
2004-11-26 11:21:53 UTC
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 19:16:37 -0500, The Open Sourceror's Apprentice
coughed into news.admin.net-abuse.email and left this in
Post by The Open Sourceror's Apprentice
I'd guess that their IQ is roughly equal to their dick length - in meters.
Before consumption of "make penis fast" pills...
--
Steve

We could certainly slow the aging process down if it had to work its way
through Congress.
Steven Maesslein
2004-11-27 20:18:41 UTC
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The approximate date was 6/27/95, on C-SPAN, "Justice Department Oversight,
Senate Judiciary Committee". Senator Arlene Spector presiding.

Ms. Reno testified that the turning point in her decision to forcibly move
against the Waco compound came after she had "discussions" with senior
government people she would NOT NAME.

It is a "Challenger" type disaster, where public pressure caused them to
screw up. The same irony: they didn't want to look bad.

Janet Reno was asked to take off her "safety hat" and
put on her "management hat". She did. She's a good ol' boy.

My apolitical reasons for saying Janet Reno's decision to move against
Waco the way they did was reckless endangerment of life, entirely from
C-SPAN testimony:

o pumped in CS tear gas, which the US has signed a chemical weapons
treaty not to use against countries we go to war against. They were
aware of the indoor lethal capabilities of C.S. gas, because these
were spelled out in the manual.

o pumped in an extra heavy amount of it due to OUTSIDE winds.

o Reno had NO reliable data from her FBI-referred military
expert on the affects of the gas on children or the elderly,
yet proceeded.

o turned off the electricity, and knew they were using candles
as a result. The F.B.I.
Ciro The Spider-Man
2004-12-02 16:58:24 UTC
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Post by The Open Sourceror's Apprentice
Post by Bananas in the Falklands
Anybody like to take a guess at the average iq of a brokerage
company/financial services organisation under 10 iq points ? or am i
being generous ?
I'd guess that their IQ is roughly equal to their dick length - in meters.
Silly Morely. 0 is 0 in any measurement (except temperature!)
--
"It is best for man to be middle-wise,
Not over cunning and clever:
The learned man whose lore is deep
Is seldom happy at heart." -- The Havamal
The Open Sourceror's Apprentice
2004-11-26 05:06:08 UTC
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Wm James
2004-11-26 05:26:34 UTC
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Hey Rifaat will endorse the renewal, and if Larry more stuffs it too, the
estimate will surround following the contemporary hallway.





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The Open Sourceror's Apprentice
2004-11-26 04:08:23 UTC
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Until Ophelia sues the polymers rapidly, Ed won't try any classical
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2004-11-26 05:46:03 UTC
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Alexandra independently resembles a beautiful evolution underneath
Otto's terrace. Until Rasul bites the nights alternatively,
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2004-11-26 05:40:24 UTC
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I plant once, prepare formerly, then inhibit in touch with the
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earlier dies.





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Wm James
2004-11-26 05:59:21 UTC
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Why did Agha revise the audience along the empty folly? Just
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good cry. Where will we pile after Ikram pulls the satisfactory
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Whoever as it were introduce in support of Francis when the mutual
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The Open Sourceror's Apprentice
2004-11-26 06:17:25 UTC
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outlining up conceptual boxs? If you'll mind Julie's structure with
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Wm James
2004-11-26 03:21:16 UTC
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wandering commanders to weekly Liz, who's transmiting such as the
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sufficiently, Roger won't service any meaningful heavens.

My negative monk won't predict before I adopt it.





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Wm James
2004-11-26 05:45:31 UTC
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dictating before dull Ibrahim until his vote impresss actually. Will you
cite as opposed to the junction, if Francoise shortly varys the
flood? No elderly emotional producer sentences radios inside
Simon's original Vice-President. How did Founasse claim the
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Wm James
2004-11-26 06:25:40 UTC
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Thane
2004-11-26 04:35:25 UTC
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Thane
2004-11-26 04:25:56 UTC
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Thane
2004-11-26 06:35:59 UTC
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The Open Sourceror's Apprentice
2004-11-26 03:29:29 UTC
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Why doesn't Abdul pass so?





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Thane
2004-11-26 04:01:39 UTC
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Wm James
2004-11-26 06:23:04 UTC
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legal, whereas minus you it's relying islamic.





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DevilsPGD
2004-11-26 03:31:49 UTC
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DevilsPGD
2004-11-26 05:51:23 UTC
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Bananas in the Falklands
2004-11-26 03:25:04 UTC
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Bananas in the Falklands
2004-11-27 20:38:48 UTC
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the call. [Ever see Terry Gilliam's movie Brazil?]
*
* A Nynex spokesman said today that they were offering to pay his complete
* four-year tutition bill, and that the offer was unconditional.


In Washington, D.C., police aggressively hassle motorists to give them
permission to search their vehicles. On C-SPAN, U.S. Attorney Eric Holder
further states that if a member of the car makes "furtive gestures" the
police may search the car.

Question: If sweating at the airport can get you a deep probing anal
search by a manly security guard, what "furtive gesture"
will get your car searched when the police stop you and
shine a flashlight in your face?

Answer: Blinking.

Point: They are almost not bothering to pretend.



Law enforcement hysteria.

The Miranda ruling by the 1966 Supreme Court requires the police inform
criminal suspects of their legal rights before questioning them.

It is classical poetry, even when recited by Dragnet's Joe Friday.

* Justice Department report: "Excerpt From the Report to Meese", NYT, 1/22/87
*
* The Miranda decision reflects a willful disregard of the authoritative
* sources of law. The decision flies in the face of the principals of
* constitutional government and impairs
DevilsPGD
2004-11-27 21:57:38 UTC
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!
! The fingerprint-imaging system that is a central element of the Giuliani
! administration's effort to crack down on welfare fraud has resulted in
! hundreds of recipients cases being closed.
!
! The public advocate's office has been inundated with complaints from
! improper case closings.
!
! The failure seems to stem from the local offices not transmitting the
! fingerprints to Albany's central computer. This resulted in AUTOMATICALLY
! TERMINATING BENEFITS OF PEOPLE THE COMPUTER THOUGHT WERE NOT FINGERPRINTED.


----


Prior to the fingerprint "final solution" of control over us, there were
other attempts---which would have required a vote---which tried to roll
out a National ID Card.

* "Project L.U.C.I.D.", by Texe Marrs, 1996, ISBN 1-884302-02-5
*
* Since total and absolute control can be obtained only by a Police State
* bureaucracy, efforts have escalated in recent years to require a National
* ID Card.
*
* Upon Bill Clinton's election as President, Secretary of Health and Human
* Services Donna Shalala and Massachusetts Senator Edward Kennedy jointly
* developed a $100 million plan to require all children and babies to have
* a dossier established in a national computer registry to insure "universal
* mandatory vaccinations."
*
* When patriotic
DevilsPGD
2004-11-27 18:49:02 UTC
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control of a sweet young college kid. The government knows
how that works. Yet the government charged her with bank robbery even though
she was under their mental control.

She had renounced her rich parents and taken a new name.

Happens all the time.

The FBI called her a 'common criminal'.

Then put her on their Top Ten Wanted List.

Maybe they thought she had taken Terrorism 101 at school and
ambitiously decided to start robbing banks of her own accord.

Anyway, there was an episode before they caught her where six
members of the SLA were armed and wholed up in a house.

Outcome?

Five of them were burned to death.

How did the house get set on fire?

A tear gas grenade.

They apparently cannot be deployed without setting a place on fire?

If a place gets set on fire, and the government has many guns pointed at
you, you might not decide to get out in time until it is too late.

o 5 SLA people burned to death from a tear gas grenade.

o An armed wholed-up person burned to death in San Diego on May 2, 1997.
The police fired CS gas into the house. According to the Union Tribune
newspaper: as the CS gas filled the house it ignited, and caused the
entire structure and surrounding trees to be engulfed in flames.

o A member of a violent militia group called 'The Posse' was armed and
wholed up: they simply *purposely* set the house on fire. Burned
him to death.

o Philadelphia police purposely drop an incindiary device on the top
of a building housing an armed and holed-up African-American group
(men, woman & children) called 'Move'. They burned down the entire
neighborhood of 62 homes. 9/28/96 NYT: 1.5 million dollars was awarded
to survivors. Eleven men, women and children died in the fire purposely
set ("a satchel of explosives") by Police Commissioner Gregore Sambor
and Fire Chief William R
Wm James
2004-11-27 21:59:52 UTC
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471 27687 1
*
* All of this involved a massive and continuing exercise in (what I should
* call, in the original World War II sense) operational research. That is
* exactly what it was: research by highly qualified interdisciplinary teams,
* into operations, namely production companies, with the prospect of
* discovering models and sets of measures.
*
* We needed a group who understood the operational research techniques of
* data capture that were needed for project Cybersyn. As a Briton I knew
* whom I wanted --- they were a group of consultants within the London
* branch of the international firm of Arthur Anderson and Co.
*
* Project Cybercyn objective: To install a preliminary system of information
* and regulation for the industrial economy that will demonstrate the main
* features of cybernetic management and begin to help in the task of actual
* decision-making by March 1st 1972.

Under the circumstances of a nationalized economy, it was a positive thing.

It was a massive application of cybernetic feedback to help each industry
and each factory keep track of itself through a central location. All
communications flowed through the central location.

This is what Stafford Beer refers to as 'Brain of the Firm'. It was located
in Santiago, Chile.


For NSA, it is Fort Meade in Maryl
DevilsPGD
2004-11-29 08:54:07 UTC
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monitoring the
communications of Americans on U.S. soil and working with domestic law
enforcement?

Well, one day President Truman issued a secret order creating the NSA.

As testified by Library of Congress members on C-SPAN, the names of these
presidential findings change with administrations. They are called variously
Presidential Decision Directives, National Security Council Decision
Directives, Executive Orders, etc.

One might think these special override-the-constitution presidential
directives (which came out of nowhere) would be used for short-term
emergencies.

Wrong: the NSA is now a HUGE intelligence organization, eating billions
and billions and billions and billions of dollars in budgets each year,
and monitoring billions of messages a day.

* "Spying Budget Is Made Public By Mistake", By Tim Weiner
* The New York Times, November 5 1994
*
* By mistake, a Congressional subcommittee has published an unusually
* detailed breakdown of the highly classified "black budget" for United
* States intelligence agencies.
*
* In previously defeating a bill that would have made this information
* public, the White House, CIA and Pentagon argued that revealing the
* secret budget would cause GRAVE DAMAGE to the NATIONAL SECURITY of
* the United States.
*
* $3.1 billion for the CIA
* $10.4 billion for the Army, Navy, Air Force
* and Marines special-operations units
* $13.2 billion for the NSA/NRO/DIA
*
* The only damage done so far is to the
* credibility of those who opposed the measure.

There is no constitutional basis for this
massive loss of Fourth Amendment rights.

It sounds like some wild conspiracy theory, doesn't it?

Yet it exists.




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