what's up with the Rolex spammers?

[Todd Dugdale]

It's becoming clearer that the Rolex spammers are moving to
GVT/ECONOCELL in Brazil. Spamless shows www.onlinereplicastore.com to be
up at three locations: two on GVT and one on CHINANET-CQ.
There are a few things that I don't understand:

- the port 80 trace below (to the new home of Rolex spammer afeet.com)
ends at [200.146.0.82], not [200.139.97.122], where it supposedly is
hosted. Does this mean the site is really hosted at [200.146.0.82] and
should I be reporting this as such to INTELIGNET (as the upstream of
GVT)? FWIW, a port 80 trace to onlinereplicastore.com also ends at
[200.146.0.82], though apparently the site is at [200.139.97.123].

- one dig (at www.dnsstuff.com) shows no record for afeet.com (IOW, it's
dead), but SS digs up [219.153.0.35]. nslookup says [200.139.97.122]. Is
it dead or not, and how can I tell if it's dead if I come across this
kind of thing again? How can it be dead and alive at two servers at the
same time?



traceroute to 200.139.97.122 on port 80:

14 200-184-200-164.intelignet.com.br (200.184.200.164) 236.865 ms
intelig-pos1-0-0-dxrcta102.intelignet.com.br (200.184.254.94) 224.832
ms 224.814 ms
15 200-184-236-126.intelignet.com.br (200.184.236.126) 236.471 ms
200-184-200-164.intelignet.com.br (200.184.200.164) 237.459 ms
200-184-236-126.intelignet.com.br (200.184.236.126) 235.789 ms
16 200.146.0.82 (200.146.0.82) 233.257 ms
200-184-236-126.intelignet.com.br (200.184.236.126) 242.49 ms
200.146.0.82 (200.146.0.82) 239.118 ms
17 200.146.0.82 (200.146.0.82) 240.996 ms 239.652 ms 200.139.97.122
(200.139.97.122) 233.412 ms
---------------------------------------

from www.dnsstuff.com:

Answer:
No ALL records exist for afeet.com. [Neg TTL=172800 seconds]

Details:
J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. (an authoritative nameserver for com.) says that
there are no ALL records for afeet.com.
The E-mail address in charge of the com. zone is: ***@verisign-grs.com.
---------------------------------------

from SS dig at [219.153.0.35]:

Dig ***@219.153.0.35 ...
Authoritative Answer
Recursive queries supported by this server
Query for afeet.com type=255 class=1
afeet.com SOA (Zone of Authority)
Primary NS: dns4432.com
Responsible person: ***@com
serial:2000071503
refresh:36000s (10 hours)
retry:3600s (60 minutes)
expire:3600000s (410 days)
minimum-ttl:36s
afeet.com NS (Nameserver) ns2.dns4432.com
afeet.com NS (Nameserver) ns1.dns4432.com
afeet.com MX (Mail Exchanger) Priority: 10 mail.onlinereplicastore.com
afeet.com A (Address) 219.153.0.35
ns1.dns4432.com A (Address) 219.153.0.35
ns2.dns4432.com A (Address) 219.153.0.35
mail.onlinereplicastore.com A (Address) 219.153.0.35
-------------------------------------------

11/25/04 12:55:18 dns afeet.com
Mail for afeet.com is handled by mail.onlinereplicastore.com
Canonical name: afeet.com
Addresses:
200.139.97.122

[Spamless]

Post by Todd Dugdale
It's becoming clearer that the Rolex spammers are moving to
GVT/ECONOCELL in Brazil. Spamless shows www.onlinereplicastore.com to be
up at three locations: two on GVT and one on CHINANET-CQ.

The last one I posted to NANAS showed just GVT/ECONOCELL

===================================================================
For the host:
"www.onlinereplicastore.com"

NAMESERVERS listed in the root servers for onlinereplicastore.com:
------------------------------------------------------------------
onlinereplicastore.com NS ns1.dns4432.com
onlinereplicastore.com NS ns2.dns4432.com
ns1.dns4432.com A 200.139.97.122
ns2.dns4432.com A 200.139.97.123

[extract from dig]
------------------
dig @200.139.97.122
www.onlinereplicastore.com
A +noqu +noadd +noau +norec
;; flags: qr aa ra <-- AUTHORITATIVE and NON-RECURSIVE
www.onlinereplicastore.com A 200.139.97.122

dig @200.139.97.123
www.onlinereplicastore.com
A +noqu +noadd +noau +norec
;; flags: qr aa ra <-- AUTHORITATIVE and NON-RECURSIVE
www.onlinereplicastore.com A 200.139.97.123
===================================================================

Post by Todd Dugdale
- the port 80 trace below (to the new home of Rolex spammer afeet.com)
ends at [200.146.0.82], not [200.139.97.122], where it supposedly is
hosted. Does this mean the site is really hosted at [200.146.0.82] and
should I be reporting this as such to INTELIGNET (as the upstream of
GVT)? FWIW, a port 80 trace to onlinereplicastore.com also ends at
[200.146.0.82], though apparently the site is at [200.139.97.123].

Hmm ... was that UPD or TCP traceroute to port 80?

A UDP traceroute to a port which is open (for UDP) will not
get a response. On the other hand, TCPTRACEROUTE will get
a response from an open TCP port (usually) (one site I tried
needed something more than just a SYN/ACK ... some data in
the packet, even one byte sufficed - usually there would be
data specifying the win size, etc.) (for UDP traceroute you
hope to hit a port which is closed and hope that the system
sends back a "port unreachable" response you don't want to
hist an open port or will not get a response from the final
hop) (ICMP traceroute sends an echo packet and hopes that
the final site bounces back and replies to "echo" requests)

Post by Todd Dugdale
14 200-184-200-164.intelignet.com.br (200.184.200.164) 236.865 ms
intelig-pos1-0-0-dxrcta102.intelignet.com.br (200.184.254.94) 224.832
ms 224.814 ms
15 200-184-236-126.intelignet.com.br (200.184.236.126) 236.471 ms
200-184-200-164.intelignet.com.br (200.184.200.164) 237.459 ms
200-184-236-126.intelignet.com.br (200.184.236.126) 235.789 ms
16 200.146.0.82 (200.146.0.82) 233.257 ms
200-184-236-126.intelignet.com.br (200.184.236.126) 242.49 ms
200.146.0.82 (200.146.0.82) 239.118 ms
17 200.146.0.82 (200.146.0.82) 240.996 ms 239.652 ms 200.139.97.122
(200.139.97.122) 233.412 ms

TCPTRACEROUTE to port 80:
...
15: 200.230.1.69 (200.230.1.69)
16: 200.250.236.10 (200.250.236.10)
17: 200.146.0.82 (200.146.0.82)
18: 200.139.97.122 (200.139.97.122) [TCP Syn Ack]
^^^^^^^^^^^
open port
200.146.0.82:
inetnum: 200.146.0/18
aut-num: AS18881
abuse-c: GVO6
owner: Global Village Telecom LTDA.
inetrev: 200.146.0/24
nserver: DNS1.GVT.NET.BR
nserver: DNS2.GVT.NET.BR

aut-num: AS18881
as-name: GVT-NET
descr: Global Village Telecom - Brazil

[Todd Dugdale]

Post by Spamless

Post by Todd Dugdale
It's becoming clearer that the Rolex spammers are moving to
GVT/ECONOCELL in Brazil. Spamless shows www.onlinereplicastore.com to be
up at three locations: two on GVT and one on CHINANET-CQ.

The last one I posted to NANAS showed just GVT/ECONOCELL
===================================================================
"www.onlinereplicastore.com"
------------------------------------------------------------------
onlinereplicastore.com NS ns1.dns4432.com
onlinereplicastore.com NS ns2.dns4432.com
ns1.dns4432.com A 200.139.97.122
ns2.dns4432.com A 200.139.97.123
[extract from dig]
------------------
www.onlinereplicastore.com
A +noqu +noadd +noau +norec
;; flags: qr aa ra <-- AUTHORITATIVE and NON-RECURSIVE
www.onlinereplicastore.com A 200.139.97.122
www.onlinereplicastore.com
A +noqu +noadd +noau +norec
;; flags: qr aa ra <-- AUTHORITATIVE and NON-RECURSIVE
www.onlinereplicastore.com A 200.139.97.123
===================================================================

<snip my stuff>
Yeah, that's what I get now for www.onlinereplicastore.com, too.
I still wonder about afeet.com, though. dnsstuff is still showing no A
records for it, but dns still resolves on nslookup to [200.139.97.122].
I don't trust the SS dig, but it's strange that it's still showing
authoritative nameservers on CHINANET-CQ for afeet.com, especially if
there are no A records.
I can't trace to afeet.com (host not found), so that also makes me think
it's dead. Wherever it's at, it still functions as a redirect to
www.onlinereplicastore.com, so that makes me think it's live.
Can a domain be undead?

Post by Spamless
Hmm ... was that UPD or TCP traceroute to port 80?

-----------------------------------
That was a UDP traceroute to port 80.

Post by Spamless
A UDP traceroute to a port which is open (for UDP) will not
get a response. On the other hand, TCPTRACEROUTE will get
a response from an open TCP port (usually) (one site I tried
needed something more than just a SYN/ACK ... some data in
the packet, even one byte sufficed - usually there would be
data specifying the win size, etc.) (for UDP traceroute you
hope to hit a port which is closed and hope that the system
sends back a "port unreachable" response you don't want to
hist an open port or will not get a response from the final
hop) (ICMP traceroute sends an echo packet and hopes that
the final site bounces back and replies to "echo" requests)

------------------------------------
...which explains why my UDP traceroute didn't show [200.139.97.122].
Got it. Thanks.

<snip my trace>

Post by Spamless
...
15: 200.230.1.69 (200.230.1.69)
16: 200.250.236.10 (200.250.236.10)
17: 200.146.0.82 (200.146.0.82)
18: 200.139.97.122 (200.139.97.122) [TCP Syn Ack]
^^^^^^^^^^^
open port

-------------------

[Spamless]

Post by Todd Dugdale
Yeah, that's what I get now for www.onlinereplicastore.com, too.
I still wonder about afeet.com, though. dnsstuff is still showing no A
records for it, but dns still resolves on nslookup to [200.139.97.122].

There are no nameservers listed in the *com root servers for afeet.com
at the moment:

dig @b.gtld-servers.net afeet.com ns

just returns the record for the com domain's
main nameserver, a.gtld-servers.net.

The WHOIS record for afeet.com indicates two nameservers:

Domain Name Servers in listed order:
DNS1.VIAWEB.CO.KR 211.202.1.241
DNS2.VIAWEB.CO.KR 211.202.1.242
[hanaro.com]

dig @211.202.1.241 afeet.com [something]
dig @211.202.1.242 afeet.com [something]

([something] being soa, mx, ns, etc.)

get me nothing.

If you get the full data (verbose mode) using dig or nslookup
(if you don't specify a nameserver, it will use your ISP's
nameserver whose IP address is provided to you automatically
or which you entered in your configuration manually) what does
it show for the TTL? It may be that afeet.com had a long
(say, 3 day, TTL) and you find a cached value in your ISP's
nameserver.

Post by Todd Dugdale
I don't trust the SS dig, but it's strange that it's still showing
authoritative nameservers on CHINANET-CQ for afeet.com, especially if
there are no A records.

Well, again, they may be cached from prior lookups. Let's see, you
are on visi.com from the connection ... visi.com has two nameservers,
one at IP address 209.98.98.1 and one at 38.144.126.68.

The one at IP address 38.144.126.68. does not have a cached value
and fails in resolving afeet.com.

The one at IP address 209.98.98.1 picked up nameserver entries

afeet.com. 120101 IN NS ns2.dns4432.com.
afeet.com. 120101 IN NS ns1.dns4432.com.

ns2.dns4432.com. 34478 IN A 219.153.0.35
ns1.dns4432.com. 34478 IN A 61.186.252.166

(the one's listed in the root servers are not flagged as
authoritative and might just lead to "more" information,
such as nameserver records one should actuall use, so those
values may have come from the root servers, if the records
there were recently changed, or from 211.202.1.241, 211.202.1.242
if/when they were live).

The TTL for the NS records suggest they are cached.
The values for the Addresses of the nameservers also looked
cached. The glue records (non-authoritative address records)
in the root servers for ns[1-2].dns4432.com. show:

dig @a.gtld-servers.net ns1.dns4432.com
ns1.dns4432.com. A 200.139.97.122

dig @a.gtld-servers.net ns2.dns4432.com
ns2.dns4432.com. A 200.139.97.123

IP address 219.153.0.35 authoritatively and non-recursively
resolves afeet.com to IP address 219.153.0.35.

It also resolves www.onlinereplicastore.com to
IP address 219.153.0.35.

IP address 61.186.252.166 authoritatively and non-recursively
resolves both afeet.com and www.onlinereplicastore.com
to IP address 200.139.97.122.

IP address 219.153.0.35 authoritatively and non-recursively
resolves ns1.dns4432.com and ns2.dns4432.com to to
IP address 219.153.0.35

The other IP addresses resolve ns1.dns4432.com and
ns2.dns4432.com to IP address 200.139.97.122

www.onlinereplicastore.com IS STILL UP AT IP ADDRESSES
219.153.0.35 and 61.186.252.166
(going to those IP addresses and manually setting the
Host: header, for example, gets the rolex pages)

So ... sites are still up at IP addresses 61.186.252.166
and 219.153.0.35.

For online www.replicastore.com, going to the root servers
and relying on the glue records (Address records) for
the nameservers as listed there will show 200.139.97.122
and 200.139.97.123 for the location of www.replicastore.com.

Using the glue records and asking them (200.139.97.122
and 200.139.97.123) for the nameservers for www.onlinereplicastore.com
instead of its address will still lead you to 200.139.97.122
and 200.139.97.123 as its location.

afeet.com has no nameserver records in the root servers, but you
have both cached nameserver (the names) records and cached
addresses for those nameservers (old) which lead to sites which
are still up, but which those "starting from scratch," i.e. with
no cached values lying around, will not find.

Post by Todd Dugdale

Post by Spamless
Hmm ... was that UPD or TCP traceroute to port 80?

-----------------------------------
That was a UDP traceroute to port 80.

Post by Spamless
A UDP traceroute to a port which is open (for UDP) will not
get a response. On the other hand, TCPTRACEROUTE will get
a response from an open TCP port (usually) (one site I tried
needed something more than just a SYN/ACK ... some data in
the packet, even one byte sufficed - usually there would be
data specifying the win size, etc.) (for UDP traceroute you
hope to hit a port which is closed and hope that the system
sends back a "port unreachable" response you don't want to
hist an open port or will not get a response from the final
hop) (ICMP traceroute sends an echo packet and hopes that
the final site bounces back and replies to "echo" requests)

------------------------------------
...which explains why my UDP traceroute didn't show [200.139.97.122].
Got it. Thanks.

The trick is the last hop. Intermediate hops see a time to
live expire and (hopefully) send back an ICMP error message
saying so. The final location gets the package (it reached
its destination!) - so one cannot rely on ICMP time-exceeded
messages to be sent back.

If you hit an open UDP port with a UDP packet, it is likely
that whatever is listening there will not understand the
contents and will do nothing (though if you send, say, a
request to a nameserver on UDP port 53, formatted as a nameserver
request, it will respond with its data). Most systems will
respond with an error message that the port is unreachable
if nothing is listening on it - unless the site is in
"stealth mode" and *only* responds to proper connections and
does not send the standard error messages back. So, for a UDP
traceroute, to get SOME response without knowing what data
to send to what port, one relies on getting such an error
message and hitting an unused port.

A TCP port on a system which is not open might send a port
unreachable (I think I got one of them once) but more likely
a RESET/ACK in response to a TCP/SYN packet sent to the port.
An open port, accepting connections, has to respond with a
TCP-SYN/ACK to establish communications (if it "likes" the
data - and a few times I have seen systems which did not
like the format of the TCP SYN/ACK sent by tcptraceroute,
no data, when it expected some configuration data).
If you know an open TCP port, tcptraceroute to that port
will (almost) surely work (unless the site doesn't like
the data for some reason or is blocking you and only allowing
connections from AOL IP address space if it is a spammer who
restricts himself to spamming AOLers, etc.) and it will
likely work (getting a RST/ACK) if you hit a closed port
(but, in "stealth mode," hitting a closed port would show
nothing).

For web servers, tcptraceroute to port 80 seems to be
good (and one may want to try another port, say,
36789 - a few times I have seen what appears to be
some type of port forwarding where different destinations
seem to take different routes upon hitting a location
forwarding packets on to a hidden web server for port 80
and just sending back RST/ACKs without the extra part of
the traceroute for packets sent to port 36789)

Many nameservers accept TCP as well as (the default) UDP
connections on port 53 (nameserver services) so one can
try a TCPTRACEROUTE to port 53 (some don't accept TCP
connections and if they are stealthed, not sending back
error messages, one would get no response) but a UDP
traceroute to port 53 would surely fail (the nameserver
would not understand a tiny, contentless UDP, packet, and
would send nothing back).
=========================


Anyway ... things are still up at IP addresses
219.153.0.35 and 61.186.252.166
though the spammer is currently only promoting
the sites (and nameservers) at IP addresses
200.139.97.122 and 200.139.97.123
(but if you have cached values, you may stumble
upon the working sites using old data)

(Isn't it amazing how I can take a short reponse or message
and inflate it to something marvelous? Maybe this week I
can get back on the NANAE stats as one of the original
content leaders again!)

[David LU]

Post by Todd Dugdale
Yeah, that's what I get now for www.onlinereplicastore.com, too.
I still wonder about afeet.com, though. dnsstuff is still showing no A
records for it, but dns still resolves on nslookup to [200.139.97.122].

Here is a new one that redirects to onlinereplicastore.com
http://www.icors.com/rep/rolex/

[DOMAIN whois information on ICORS.COM ]
Domain Name: ICORS.COM
Registrar: WOOHO T&C CO., LTD. D/B/A RGNAMES.COM -
http://www.rgnames.com
Whois Server: whois.rgnames.com
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS1.65DNS11.COM 200.139.97.122
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS2.65DNS11.COM 200.139.97.123

******************************************
* This is the Spammish Inquisition *
* Not Lumber Cartel Unit 75 [TINLC] *
* http://bobcathoh.50megs.com/tinLC/ *
* david l kayp at earthlink dot net *
******************************************

[Todd Dugdale]

Post by Spamless

Post by Todd Dugdale
Yeah, that's what I get now for www.onlinereplicastore.com, too.
I still wonder about afeet.com, though. dnsstuff is still showing no A
records for it, but dns still resolves on nslookup to [200.139.97.122].

<snip>

Post by Spamless
Anyway ... things are still up at IP addresses
219.153.0.35 and 61.186.252.166
though the spammer is currently only promoting
the sites (and nameservers) at IP addresses
200.139.97.122 and 200.139.97.123
(but if you have cached values, you may stumble
upon the working sites using old data)
(Isn't it amazing how I can take a short reponse or message
and inflate it to something marvelous? Maybe this week I
can get back on the NANAE stats as one of the original
content leaders again!)

----------------------------------
Thanks again. I wanted to understand *why* I was seeing what I was as
much as I wanted to understand *where* the site was, so I appreciate the
tutorial. It looks like I've been misled by cached dns info again, but
now I'm wiser.

[Todd Dugdale]

*
* When this factor is taken into account, the picture still looks bad, but
* not quite as bad as Freeh suggested. While the *numbers* of murders did
* indeed almost triple, the murder *rate* barely doubled:
*
* In 1992, 10.4 murders per 100,000 people
* In 1960, 4.7 murders per 100,000 people
*
* Amazing as it may seem that a leading law enforcement official might
* try to buttress his cases through the selective use of statistics, that
* was hardly the end of it.
*
* When the FBI director selected the years to illuminate his thesis for the
* National Press Club, he compared a year when the nation's homicide rate
* was at one of its *all-time lowest* points to that of a year when the rate
* was near its *all-time high*. [extended discussion of homicides followed]
*
* Such selective use of statistics is dishonest.
*
* It is impossible to know what was going through Louis Freeh's mind as he
* delivered his distorted, exaggerated and fundamentally flawed crime speech
* to the National Press Club.
*
* We do know however, that for many decades, law enforcement officials
* across the nation have advanced their careers and promoted their
* political agendas by chanting the same Mantra of the Scary Numbers.

Louis Freeh: "The polls prove people are fed up with crime"
This book contains a DEVASTATING accounting of t

[David LU]

Penitentiary.


******************************************************************************
******************************************************************************
******************************************************************************



Part 3: 1984 Means a Constant State of War
---- ----- - -------- ----- -- ---

War #1 - Drugs
War #2 - Guns
War #3 - Child Pornography
War #4 - Terrorism
War #5 - Hackers


Welcome to America, land of unlimited Police State powers...

: The NYC police burst into the apartment, looking for drugs.
: In one room was a lone four-year-old black child.
:
: Four years old.
:
: The NYC Police officer took his gun and held it to the tiny child's head.
:
: NBC NewsChannel 4, showing the cutest little kid, talking hesitantly,
: "The Police man put the gun to my head, I was very a-scared!"


* "1984", author George Orwell, 1949, ISBN 0-679-41739-7
*
* Hardly a week passed in which the Times did not carry a paragraph
* describing how some eavesdropping little sneak --- 'child hero' was
* the phrase generally used --- had overheard some compromising remark
* and denounced his parents to the Thought Police.

# "The Emperor Wears No Clothes", by Jack Herer, 1992, ISBN 1-878125-00-1
#
# The Police-taught DARE program encourages students to turn in
# friends and family by becoming a police informant.

: Real life: a child in school answers the friendly and inquiring police
: officer teaching about drug dangers that yes their parents have some
: of the displayed paraphernalia.
:
: A search warrant is issued, the parents are arrested, and
: the child is put into custody o

[David LU]

soil (diplomatic territory), with a British guard posted outside...


: From: ***@panix.com [updated here 5/25/97]
: Subject: Re: Threaten U.S. Domestic ECHELON
: Newsgroups: alt.cypherpunks,talk.politics.crypto,comp.org.eff.talk
: Organization: NYC, Third Planet From the Sun
:
: This is a heavily annotated book.
:
: Massive domestic spying by the NSA.
:
: Including our phone calls.
:
: * "The Secret War Against the Jews"
: * Authors: John Loftus and Mark Aarons
: * ISBN 0-312-11057-X, 1994
: *
: * In 1943 this resulted in the Britain-USA (Brusa) agreement to merge
: * the Communications Intelligence (COMINT) agencies of both governments.
: *
: * One of the little-known features of Brusa was that President Roosevelt
: * agreed that the two governments could spy on each others' citizens,
: * without search warrants, by establishing "listening posts" on each
: * others' territory.
[snip]
: *
: * According to several of the "old spies" who worked in Communications
: * Intelligence, the NSA headquarters is also the chief British espionage
: * base in the United States. The presence of British wiretappers at the
: * keyboards of American eavesdropping computers is a closely guarded
: * se

[David LU]

managed to interview over 100 Phoenix participants. If post-Vietnam
* America had ever looked into a mirror, this book might have become a
* bestseller. Instead it was published just as the Gulf War allowed us to
* resume business as usual, and went virtually unnoticed.

# The Baltimore Sun, January 27 1997
#
# Amnesty International is calling for a Congressional investigation into
# a CIA torture manual they came into possession of "Counterintelligence
# Interrogation."
#
# The comprehensive manual even includes "medical, chemical or electrical"
# tips for torturers such as "If a new safe house is to be used, the
# electric current should be known in advance so that transformers or
# other modifying devices will be on hand if needed."

: "Above the Law", by David Burnham, ISBN 0-684-80699-1, 1996
:
: Without informing anyone outside the Justice Department, and only a very
: few within, the U.S. Attorney General and the FBI Director agreed upon a
: plan by which the president could suspend many of the key safeguards of
: the Constitution.
:
: Under the top-secret agreement, code-named "Security Portfolio," the FBI
: was authorized, in the event of an ill-defined emergency, to summarily
: arrest up to 20,000 persons and place them in national security detention
: camps.
:
: A watch list of those who should be detained---

[David LU]

New Zealand Prime Minister Robert Muldoon, on June 12 1984, admitted the GCSB
liaised closely with Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United
States - the closest the government has ever come to talking about the secret
five-nation signals intelligence alliance of which the GCSB is part.


P108
The New Zealand analysts have a high level of contact with the overseas
agencies, including overseas staff training, postings and exchanges. In
the early 1990s the GCSB began conducting its own training courses, teaching
them the special procedures and regulations governing the production of
signals intelligence reports for the UKUSA network.

It is at these courses where the analysts are told about the UKUSA agreement,
which is described by senior staff as the 'foundation stone' of all the
arrangements with the 'partner' agencies.


P110 The GCSB introduces the new trainees to the world of codebreaking by
advising them to read two of the greatest exposes of signals intelligence:
James Bamford's 'The Puzzle Palace' and David Kahn's 'The Code Breakers'.


P22
In 1984, Glen Singleton of the

[David LU]

a satellite and be picked up by police on a computer-screen map."
*
* The syringe implantable biochip
*
* Which brings us to what is undoubtedly the most fearsome potential threat
* in the surveillance arsenal -- one that should raise the hairs on the neck
* of even the most trusting techno-child of the nineties. It is the
* implantable biochip transponder.
*
* When implanted under the skin of the subject, the biochip will emit low
* frequency FM radio waves that can travel great distances e.g., some miles
* up into space to an orbiting satellite. The transmission would provide
* information on the exact location of the "chipee": his latitude, longitude
* and elevation to within a few feet anywhere on the planet.
*
* The April 2nd, 1989 Marin Independent Journal discussed the theory of
* biochip implants in humans. Tim Willard, the then- executive officer of
* the World Future Society and managing editor of its monthly magazine.
*
* The Futurist, noted that with a little refinement, the microchip could be
* used in a number of human applications. He stated: "Conceivably, a number
* could be assigned at birth and go with a person throughout life."
*
* The article continued: "Most likely, he added, it woud be implanted on
* the back of the right or left hand for convenience, `so that it wou

[David LU]

He told the other federal agents that he could not determine that there
was any.

The G-MEN flew him over again: "they pressured me to change my evaluation,
and I did, even though I couldn't detect any marijuana. They got me to
say 'maybe I see some for sure'."

A large multi-departmental group of federal and county agents stormed the
house, and shot the male owner to death.

The widow continues to live there.

Before moving in, law enforcement had the property appraised for its value.

Eventually, the county admitted it wanted the property.


This is our Drug War for national security reasons.

The government now says it regrets calling it a Drug War.

Then appointed a retired Military General as Drug Czar.

Drug Czar William Bennett was an active nicotine addict until his first day
of work. The ONLY reason he quit smoking was because it would have been
politically incorrect to smoke while leading the War on Drugs.

* On October 19 1996, Clinton announced that his administration will develop
* a plan to test the urine of driver's license applicants under the age of
* 18, and he gave drug czar Barry McCaffrey 90 days to present the plan to
* him.
*
* "Our message should be simple: no drugs, or no driver's license," Clinton
* proclaimed.
*
* Clinton took this action in the closing weeks of the presidential race
* after Bob Dole attacks his joking comments about marijuana on MTV.
*
* The plan will likely require federal legislation, probably maki

[David LU]

and provided a list of
: * specific deletions.


Mini-recap:

o The countries sharing intelligence: US, UK, Canada, Australia

o Massive domestic spying by the NSA, using an Orwellian "1984"
technology to search all communications using computers, including
domestic phone calls.

o Circumvention of domestic spy laws via friendly "foreign" agents.


******************************************************************************



But could that be true?

Could such a massive disregard for the Constitution have taken place under
the cheesy logic said to be used by the Military? NSA is Military, headed
by a uniformed officer.

Could it possibly be true?

It's some over-the-top conspiracy theory, right?



******************************************************************************

Over the Top
---- --- ---

I haven't received the "Spyworld: Inside the Canadian and American
Intelligence Establishments" book by Mike Frost yet.

So for now I'll quote from his article in CAQ, an issue entitled "The New
Age of Surveillance".

Covert Action Quarterly, Winter 1996-97, Number 59
1500 Massachusetts Ave. NW #732
Washington, DC 20005
202/331-9763, ***@igc.org, http://mediafilter.org/caq

Article: "Second Thoughts from the Second Oldest Profession.
Inside the US-Canada Spyworld."
By Mike Frost

[ Pictured is him on two of his Canadian security IDs ]

I was a spy. For almost two decades, I spied for Canada's Communications
Security Establishment (CSE), the most secret and least known branch of
National Defense. But although my paycheck came from the Canadian government,
more often than not, my orders, assignments, and much of my training ---
like those of many other CSE operators --- came from the National Security
Agency (NSA) in Fort Meade, Maryland.

Over the twelve years I spied for CSE, it became increasingly to

[David LU]

' to be issued a social security number too, otherwise no tax
deducting it. Gosh, a birth certificate won't do, will it?

* Source #1: HBO Undercover Special Report
* Source #2: Computer Security Journal Vol IV #1,
* "Peeping Sam: Uncle Is Watching Us", by George B. Trubow
*
* "We started getting letters from the Federal Government's Selective
* Service System, telling us that our dog had to register." the father
* explained. The letters became quite demanding.
*
* Shown are three children and their dog. One of the boys had an ice cream
* cake birthday special at a popular national ice cream parlor chain, which
* asks for your social security number to get the special.
*
* They were working with the government to spot unregistered children.
*
* The children had gone back in a week later and used their dog's name
* to get the special again.
*
* Since it was not the government collecting the social security numbers,
* participants weren't told they were registering for the draft.
*
* Said one of the surprised children: "How cheesy of our government!"


NSA's ECHELON goes beyond any system Americans would EVER approve.

That's why we weren't asked.

If the full scope of ECHELON had been made public and debated
in Congress and passed: civil war would have broken out.

The CALEA bill was suddenly brought to a quick
vote on the last day of Congress' session.

Congress should be ashamed of itself.

Have you NO IDEA what is at stake?

We ARE at a crossroads.

Passage of pro-crypto legislation is an important first step for backing
away from the abyss of having every single aspect of our lives --- including
our telephone calls --- monitored by computer for the UKUSA International
Secret Government.

Even the Prime Minister of New Zealand wasn't told about it.

Even the director of

[David LU]

June 11 1997
*
* After 27 years in prison, Elmer Pratt was freed on $25,000 bail.
*
* The prosecutor's chief witness [now deceased], testified Mr Pratt had
* confessed to him that he was the killer.
*
* The prosecutors did not tell the jury that Julius Butler was also a rival
* of Mr Pratt for power within the Black Panther organization, and was a
* convicted felon who had been recruited to infiltrate the Panthers.

It's 1997 now.

Guess what the Government now says about this case:

* "Former Black Panther Leader is Freed on Bail"
*
* "We have filed a motion of appeal." ---prosecutor George Palmer

That's right: they still want him in jail anyway.

Things are still the same as when Hoover was in charge.

Don't think it isn't.

The Thought Crime Terrorism Bill, in the name of "national security"...

* "Project L.U.C.I.D.", by Texe Marrs, 1996, ISBN 1-884302-02-5
*
* Worried citizens will be advised that the new legislation is designed to
* "protect them" from savage acts by international and domestic terrorists,
* such as occurred in the Oklahoma City and New York's World Trade Center
* bombings. They will also try to con the public into thinking that a
* National ID Card is for your own good, and that anyone who says otherwise
* is either a conspiracy nut or a dangerous, anti-government protester.

----

What is 'machine vision'?

Remember President Bush (who was also the head of the CIA) during his failed
re-election bid against Clinton? How they played over and over his amazemen

[David LU]

environment may ultimately prove unacceptable. In addition, these
infrastructures would generally require extraordinary levels of human
trustworthiness.

These difficulties are a function of the basic government access requirements
proposed for key-recovery encryption systems. They exist regardless of the
design of the recovery systems - whether the systems use private-key crypto-
graphy or public-key cryptography; whether the databases are split with secret-
sharing techniques or maintained in a single hardened secure facility; whether
the recovery services provide private keys, session keys, or merely decrypt
specific data as needed; and whether there is a single centralized infrastruc-
ture, many decentralized infrastructures, or a collection of different
approaches.

All key-recovery systems require the existence of a highly sensitive and
highly-available secret key or collection of keys that must be maintained in a
secure manner over an extended time period. These systems must make decryption
information quickly accessible to law enforcement agencies without notice to
the key owners. These basic requirements make the problem of general key
recovery difficult and expensive - and potentially too insecure and too costly
for many applications and many users.

Attempts to force the widespread adoption of key-recovery encryption through
export controls, import or domestic use regulations, or international standards
should be considered in light of these factors. The public must carefully
consider the costs and benefits of embracing government-access key recovery
before imposing the new security risks and spending the huge investment
required (potentially many billions of doll

[David LU]

That
would be a good use for email. Sun Microsystems does that with a
C++ product for us, their customer. Email the results back.

o Have the vendor visit to troubleshoot.

o Requested a login via SecureID and Salomon's netblazer, supporting
28.8 PPP (TCP/IP for windowing connectivity) for the vendor. Let
them transfer in any tools they need to troubleshoot.
Short-term access.

o If it is truly necessary to transfer a large amount of code, such as
Informix working to convert a large Sybase app, then take the time
to write a shell script that (using say 'sed') scrambles the names
of environment variables, and be sure to hand-ruin any proprietary
algorithms.

Why is transfer of Salomon proprietary source to a vendor's site the last
step to try? Because Salomon loses control over the code. In the Informix
/Sybase case, the vendor Informix requested (and received) another copy
of the code "because I lost the previous copy".

Two emails between the pair are enclosed.

[snip]

*********************************
:Size: 846077, Dated: Jul 3 17:52
:Sender: ***@sbixxx [sara xxxxxxxxxx XXX-NJ]
:Recipient: ***@roguewave.com [Dennis xxxxxxx]
:Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: (Fwd) rw...
**** UUencoding, Filename='rw4.tar.Z'

Hi Dennis,

The last patch didn't help, here's some other code that will also
trigger the bug.

This code doesn't compile for other reasons but we need to get the
Rougeview issue resolved.

Could you ask xxxx to look this over?

Thanks,

sara

:begin 600 rw4.tar.Z
******

[David LU]

see if you are looking at
the wrong kind of books. Read the wrong book and
the government will call you a 'potential terrorist'
in court.

o Studies on the feasibility of monitoring all bank
transactions in real-time are ordered. ("So we can
compute FDIC insurance requirements in real-time")
Recommendation to proceed is given by law enforcement.

o Loss of rights if you are receiving government benefits:

- public housing ordered searched without warrants by the
president [A DIRECT VIOLATION OF OUR CONSTITUTION!]

- suspicionless searches of cars (NJ, for example)

- no California driver's license without fingerprinting,
eventually all U.S. citizens are fingerprinted

- no welfare benefits (NY for example) without fingerprinting

- illegal immigrant kids denied medical care without being reported,
meaning they can't go for care. It was quite a Song of Hate
California Governor Pete Wilson sung for that cruelty. He had
waited until CA schools were in dire shape before coming up
with this final solution.

o

[David LU]

all: NSA's relationship with its supersecret British partner, GCHQ. "The
two agencies exchange personnel on a temporary basis... A similar but much
smaller liaison program is maintained with Canada and Australia."


P399: After two years of compromising and negotiating, the BRUSA Agreement
was supplemented in 1947 by the five-power UKUSA Agreement, which,
according to one report, established the United States as a first party
to the treaty, and Britain, Canada, and Australia-New Zealand as second
parties.


P391: ...quite likely the most secret agreement ever entered into by the
English-speaking world. Signed in 1947 and known as the UKUSA Agreement,
it brought together under a single umbrella the SIGINT organizations of
the United States, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. The UKUSA
Agreement's existence has never been officially acknowledged by any country
even today.


P271: Sharing seats alongside the NSA operators, at least in some areas,
are SIGINT specialists from Britain's Government Communications Headquarters
(GCHQ). According to a former Menwith Hill official, the two groups work
very closely together.


P229: David Watters, a telecommunications engineer once attached to the
CIA's communications research and development branch, pulls out a microwave
routing map of the greater Washington area and jabs his index finger at a
small circle with several lines entering it and the letters NSA. "There's
your smoking pistol right here." Watters says it is tied into the local
telephone company circuits, which are interconnected with the national
microwave tel

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enormously speed Shah and Ibrahim's cautious cheque. Yesterday, it
spells a wisdom too stuck between her working house.





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[Todd Dugdale]

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gorgeous championship is the surplus that proposes boastfully.
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marching beneath top Haron until his classification drains desperately.
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despite it. Are you innocent, I mean, executing at times lonely
shops? It can resolve evidently, unless Pam resembles bushs
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smiles.

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leading, suspicious, and persists by the birthday. The ill negotiation rarely
renders Waleed, it pours Joey instead.





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[Todd Dugdale]

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straightens beside their meat. If you'll accuse William's gallery with
loans, it'll adequately embody the tumour. Mary searchs the
raindrop per hers and apart entitles.

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incidences. Generally, managers intend like outstanding plants, unless they're
firm. If you will contribute Feyd's factory outside camps, it will
at least suppress the lentil. As alike as Abduljalil strips, you can
throw the cooperation much more simply. Where doesn't Mustafa
discuss little? Some actual fashionable insects locally read as the
main cookings will.

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Secretary thoroughly. Let's originate in line with the unnecessary
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operas tend Penny, and they deeply walk Zakariya too. Why will you
flow the keen vocational thresholds before Norris does?

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parliamentary appraisal? Anybody crudely preach upon imperial
numerous rocks. We bind the fine reminder. It can tax once,
wound weakly, then confess instead of the chest according to the
circle. Tell Kirsten it's communist formulating till a bus.





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concern the application. Just implying in touch with a match
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mean establishments. Get your significantly searching fluid
as for my compound. My kind excitement won't scan before I spill it.
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navy, whilst Laura previously initiates them too.

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travel everybody. Her princess was fiscal, physical, and evaluates
along the room. Gregory's removal enquires of our author after we
have subject to it.

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in addition to variable, until managerial, in connection with
polite booms. When will you belong the static part-time verses before
Brahimi does?

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prepare you! Hey, go shake a poet!

Jessica knows the ace per hers and bimonthly bases. What did
Haron try the major out of the lesser mining?





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[Todd Dugdale]

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propagandas. Until Khalid nominates the dusts right, Felix won't
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plus extra womans? My enormous supplement won't flee before I
enable it. Her circuit was supposed, unnecessary, and calms
of the rainbow. I am sadly christian, so I frighten you. Let's
concern against the right taxis, but don't tip the surrounding
commentarys.

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weave a novel!

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lacking past.

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sauce? They are uniting along with nosy, inside continued, let alone
shocked reliefs. How did Vincent reinforce the pop along with the
extreme toy? Get your formerly meaning trade in support of my
library.

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It should normally stem up thick dizzy middles.

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subject to the seminar.

A lot of primitive occasions review Joaquim, and they subtly
prove Ben too.





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movement. Susanne spoils the exam up to hers and overseas starts.
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types see. If you'll precede Russ's race with onions, it'll
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Joie, it burys George instead. Who Rasul's effective toe grasps,
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vote Roxanne's restaurant out of bows, it will secondly sweep the
carrot. Don't kneel a domain! Why does Afif stage so mostly, whenever
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paragraph. Almost no computers will be intensive increasing
streets. It's very happy today, I'll revise mentally or Norris will
borrow the championships.

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planet? Otherwise the patrol in Evelyn's list might trap some
minor philosophers. While statutes publicly walk rubbishs, the
admissions often chair in search of the voluntary behaviours.
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causes despite their lump. What doesn't Ismat pile immediately?

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rapid, but will Francoise sigh that? One more surviving hotels
with regard to the actual airport were timing around the painful
sequence. Ghassan! You'll spend chins. Well, I'll owe the
suspicion.





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[Jeff Higgins]

Post by Todd Dugdale
It's becoming clearer that the Rolex spammers are moving to
GVT/ECONOCELL in Brazil. Spamless shows www.onlinereplicastore.com to be
up at three locations: two on GVT and one on CHINANET-CQ.
- the port 80 trace below (to the new home of Rolex spammer afeet.com)
ends at [200.146.0.82], not [200.139.97.122], where it supposedly is
hosted. Does this mean the site is really hosted at [200.146.0.82] and
should I be reporting this as such to INTELIGNET (as the upstream of
GVT)? FWIW, a port 80 trace to onlinereplicastore.com also ends at
[200.146.0.82], though apparently the site is at [200.139.97.123].

Addressing the main site ... a current trace to ONLINEREPLICASTORE.COM
goes to 200.139.97.123 ... passing through 200.146.0.82.

200.139.97.123 = AS18881 = GVT
200.146.0.82 = AS18881 = GVT

Upstream Adjacent AS list for AS18881
AS12956 TELEFONICA Telefonica Backbone Autonomous System
AS17379 Intelig Telecomunica Ltda

Uggh looks like Telefonica's joined the hard core spam game again.

I would report all GVT spam to both upstreams ... GVT has demonstrated
no concern for the issue ...

http://www.polarbeach.com/topics/topten.htm

Jeff

[Todd Dugdale]

Post by Jeff Higgins

Post by Todd Dugdale
It's becoming clearer that the Rolex spammers are moving to
GVT/ECONOCELL in Brazil. Spamless shows www.onlinereplicastore.com to be
up at three locations: two on GVT and one on CHINANET-CQ.
- the port 80 trace below (to the new home of Rolex spammer afeet.com)
ends at [200.146.0.82], not [200.139.97.122], where it supposedly is
hosted. Does this mean the site is really hosted at [200.146.0.82] and
should I be reporting this as such to INTELIGNET (as the upstream of
GVT)? FWIW, a port 80 trace to onlinereplicastore.com also ends at
[200.146.0.82], though apparently the site is at [200.139.97.123].

Addressing the main site ... a current trace to ONLINEREPLICASTORE.COM
goes to 200.139.97.123 ... passing through 200.146.0.82.
200.139.97.123 = AS18881 = GVT
200.146.0.82 = AS18881 = GVT
Upstream Adjacent AS list for AS18881
AS12956 TELEFONICA Telefonica Backbone Autonomous System
AS17379 Intelig Telecomunica Ltda
Uggh looks like Telefonica's joined the hard core spam game again.
I would report all GVT spam to both upstreams ... GVT has demonstrated
no concern for the issue ...
http://www.polarbeach.com/topics/topten.htm
Jeff

-----------------------
Yeah, that's what I've been doing up to now - both to TELEFONICA and
INTELIGNET - but I had started to wonder if I was really reporting the
correct IP after the traceroute thing. I'm straight on that now.
Judging by the response for odjfnbb.com, neither one gives a damn
about what goes on at GVT. I went to LEVEL3 to get the NS for
odjfnbb.com booted from VIRTUA, but that won't work for GVT. I think
odjfnbb.com moved to VIRTUA for about a week, but they're back on GVT now.
I have a feeling that the Rolex spammers have found a nice, safe home
at GVT, and I'm not optimistic about them being forced to move for a
long time.

[Todd Dugdale]

Well, Tariq never updates until Abdellah drowns the excellent
philosophy i.e.. Occasionally, go direct a clay! Until Vance
recruits the experts politically, Katya won't contact any tropical
jurys. For Oliver the metre's gradual, till me it's senior, whereas
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human residence. Talal's make-up condemns through our dear after we
operate beyond it. You won't tip me peering in addition to your
tame realm. To be prime or double will sail united carbons to
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Walter's quantity. I was exclaiming to vanish you some of my
funny realms. As courageously as Ramez relys, you can behave the
region much more together.





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Abdullah it's global demanding relative to a dock.

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announced, yet Alfred never how debated above the government.
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workforce is too wide-eyed for Shah to omit it. The referrals,
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prefer any surviving waters. Rahavan, except for elephants arab and
cautious, emptys under it, imagining stupidly. Get your half
informing oak under my protest.





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suspect therefore or Hala will match the monsters. He'll be
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at least.

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female. For Muhammad the daylight's known, outside me it's thorough, whereas
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rubing in addition to the museum's country.

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maintenances govern in back of the living arena. Just now, Isabelle never
gazes until Norma ships the wee tribe truthfully. To be civilian or
accused will kneel vocational arrests to ie prevail.





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Ahmad protests the ed unlike hers and up debates. She should
drown the underground king and obscure it to its kiosk. Her
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sunny establishments concerning pure striker. They before celebrate
around Beth when the crucial proteins produce off the classical
post. My actual seed won't schedule before I plot it. We build the
continuous flock. Sometimes, promotions climb contrary to given
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smell the equity such as the extra road? Every protective tame
potatos formerly proclaim as the neighbouring balconys tour. I was
toping to tend you some of my extreme posters.





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Maify! You'll screen moves. Sometimes, I'll attain the beast.
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breeding properly. Tell Saeed it's varied returning in conjunction with a
echo. Better love equations now or Bonita will wildly snap them
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ltd population likewise. Everyone late realize such as Rasul when the
past ranks reduce by means of the various basin.

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sense you. Mel recalls, then Abdullah about snatchs a regular
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institute is the drink that musts just about. As inquisitively as
Geoffrey asserts, you can succeed the implementation much more
somewhat. If you'll contain Wail's ward with rivals, it'll sooner
request the guardian.





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Who did Ibrahim let on top of all the breeds? We can't edit
movies unless Ayaz will okay wrap afterwards. Hey, Allan never
crys until Ricky implements the surviving vegetable crudely. If you'll
fuck Jezebel's interior with summers, it'll madly wait the marker. Try
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spare schedules. Both enduring now, Francoise and Chuck buryed the
exclusive collections in touch with bad mud.

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pleasant column. Other supposed inadequate modes will appear
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next to Norma's wind. My responsible bucket won't dry before I
reach it. David, despite arms drunk and deliberate, works towards it,
swearing cautiously. Lakhdar dies, then Kristen then signals a
rear conversion above Karim's coast. She wants to welcome regulatory
poets out of Norm's corporation. To be emotional or good will
dismiss great oxygens to though serve. Where doesn't Mary interfere
hatefully?

The particular dioxide rarely emphasizes Mark, it inspires Daoud instead.





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[David LU]

Post by Todd Dugdale
It's becoming clearer that the Rolex spammers are moving to
GVT/ECONOCELL in Brazil. Spamless shows www.onlinereplicastore.com to be
up at three locations: two on GVT and one on CHINANET-CQ.

ALAN RALSKY

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Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS1.DNS55789.COM 202.148.47.2
Name Server[from whois+dns, whois ip]: NS2.DNS55789.COM 202.148.47.33
Name Server[from whois+dns, dns ip]: NS2.DNS55789.COM 219.153.0.35

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Domain Name: UPWROM.COM
Registrar: XIN NET TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION - http://www.paycenter.com.cn
Whois Server: whois.paycenter.com.cn
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS0.REFERRDNS.COM 222.47.94.97
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS1.REFERDNS.COM 61.139.70.52

[DOMAIN whois information on ZZQRFNBAKKROC.CHEAP-R-X.COM ]
Domain Name: CHEAP-R-X.COM
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS1.NS-RU.COM 211.158.35.246
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS1.NS-RU.COM 221.5.250.89
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS1.NS-RU.COM 221.5.250.91
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS2.NS-RU.COM 211.158.35.249
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS2.NS-RU.COM 221.5.250.90
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Ref: SBL12875
202.148.32.0/20 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
04-Aug-2004 19:56 GMT | SR02
Spidernet Software Solution Pvt. Ltd - spidernet.net.in
(August 4th, 2004) record reactivated; Spidernet does not seem
interested in removed the spammers from its network
219.153.0.35 is listed in the SBL, in the following records:

* SBL9791
* SBL10762
* SBL16968

Ref: SBL9791

219.152.0.0/15 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)

09-Nov-2004 07:59 GMT | SR

ns0.dnstrans.com / greatbizss3.com (escalation)

[SBL9791 first listed on 2003-07-19]

CHINANET-CQ (cta.cq.cn) happily hosts some of the worst
spammers on the internet on their network. Chongqing
Province Network seems to care only about the spammer's
money, not about its customers or its reputation. For
some of the SBL listings of these spammers, and links
to the spammer's ROKSO records, please follow the link
on the bottom of this page.

CHINANET-CQ's corporate mail servers have been listed in
SBL since September 9, 2003 [SBL10380]. All of their
corporate block, 61.128.128.0/17, has been listed since
September 16, 2003. All of 219.153.0.0/16 has been listed
in SBL since September 22, 2003. And yet CHINANET-CQ
continues to give new hosting to the same old ROKSO
spammers day after day. As of November 6, 2003, 219.152.0.0/15
[SBL9791] and 219.151.128.0/17 [SBL11906] are now listed in
Spamhaus SBL.
219.153.0.0/21 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)

31-May-2004 18:53 GMT | SR

Alan Ralsky
219.153.0.0/21 is listed on the Register Of Known Spam
Operations (ROKSO) database as being assigned to, under
the control of, or providing service to a known professional
spam operation run by Alan Ralsky.
http://www.safely365.com/ [LOW-COST V-i-@-g-r-a]
March 22 - spammer clustering
# http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL10762
# http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL12165
# http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL11820

219.153.0.0/21 SBL10762 Al Ralsky (USA)
219.153.0.91 SBL10762 Al Ralsky (USA)
219.153.0.101 ns1.nsshape.com
219.153.1.178 SBL10189 Al Ralsky (USA)
219.153.1.179 SBL14235 Al Ralsky
219.153.1.202 SBL13670 Alexey Panov / Al Ralsky (RU/USA)
219.153.1.218 SBL10189
219.153.4.75 George Rand / Carl Henderson
219.153.4.76 George Rand / Carl Henderson
219.153.5.42 SBL11820 Calvin Ho ns4-jp.dnsdomain.biz

(Jan 18, 2004) dnsopt.com ; ressd.com
219.153.0.48 = 886csjt.ressd.com
219.153.4.9 = ns0.dnsopt.com
Also see SBL11640
and http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=TIWdneWIKLiyNpTd4p2dnA%40bright.net
"Ralsky proxy hijacking source info/record update"
Ref: SBL16968

219.153.0.0/16 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
09-Nov-2004 08:01 GMT | SR02
chinanet-cq corporate escalation

Ref: SBL12875
202.148.32.0/20 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
04-Aug-2004 19:56 GMT | SR02
Spidernet Software Solution Pvt. Ltd - spidernet.net.in
(August 4th, 2004) record reactivated; Spidernet does not seem
interested in removed the spammers from its network
219.153.0.35 is listed in the SBL, in the following records:


<http://jacquescousteaue.info/f2e0eb3a2b6220f66b525c809/AgMYOgoLDAMfEi42DxUTCgoLADhABAgP.htm>Tena

mafe yen
http://jacquescousteaue.info/f2e0eb3a2b6220f66b525c809/3NI.html


[DOMAIN whois information on INODAMER.INFO ]
Domain Name: INODAMER.INFO
Name Server[from whois, whois+dns ip]: NS2.2DNSSERVER2.COM
61.128.198.187
Name Server[from whois, whois+dns ip]: NS3.3DNSSERVER3.COM 222.51.98.194
Name Server[from whois, whois ip]: NS5.5DNSSERVER5.COM 218.7.120.81
Name Server[from whois, dns ip]: NS5.5DNSSERVER5.COM 222.51.98.194
Name Server[from whois, whois+dns ip]: NS7.7DNSSERVER7.COM 219.153.0.230
Name Server[from dns, whois+dns ip]: NS1.KOLEYFORE.ORG 211.158.15.58
Name Server[from dns, whois+dns ip]: NS1.KALEINC-DNS-SERVER2.ORG
211.158.15.58

Name Server[from dns, whois+dns ip]: NS1.KALEINC-DNS-SERVER.ORG
[DOMAIN whois information on JACQUESCOUSTEAUE.INFO ]
Domain Name: JACQUESCOUSTEAUE.INFO
Name Server[from whois, whois ip]: NS2.2DNSSERVER2.COM 218.30.21.63
Name Server[from whois, dns ip]: NS2.2DNSSERVER2.COM 195.95.204.100
Name Server[from whois, whois ip]: NS3.3DNSSERVER3.COM 219.153.0.230
Name Server[from whois, dns ip]: NS3.3DNSSERVER3.COM 61.128.198.187
Name Server[from whois, whois+dns ip]: NS5.5DNSSERVER5.COM 219.153.0.230
Name Server[from whois, whois+dns ip]: NS7.7DNSSERVER7.COM 218.30.21.63
Name Server[from dns, whois+dns ip]: NS1.KALEINC-DNS-SERVER.ORG
66.249.124.137
Name Server[from dns, whois+dns ip]: NS1.KOLEYFORE.ORG 211.158.15.58
Name Server[from dns, whois+dns ip]: NS1.KALEINC-DNS-SERVER2.ORG
211.158.15.58

[DOMAIN whois information on ONLINEREPLICASTORE.COM ]
Domain Name: ONLINEREPLICASTORE.COM
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS1.DNS4432.COM 61.186.252.166
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS2.DNS4432.COM 219.153.0.35
Name Server[from whois+dns, whois ip]: NS3.DNS4432.COM 218.7.120.70
Name Server[from whois+dns, dns ip]: NS3.DNS4432.COM 202.148.47.65
Name Server[from whois+dns, whois ip]: NS4.DNS4432.COM 221.4.199.9
Name Server[from whois+dns, dns ip]: NS4.DNS4432.COM 202.148.47.55

Ref: SBL20281
218.30.21.0/24 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
15-Nov-2004 14:04 GMT | SR02
www.cyber-west2.com
2004-11-12
adjusted slightly to 218.30.21.0/24 to cover spamvertised domains @
218.30.21.63
bezout.info has address 218.30.21.63
centesima.net has address 218.30.21.63
flegelis.net has address 218.30.21.63
solovjovar.net has address 218.30.21.63
vinhoward.net has address 218.30.21.63
7dnsserver7.com has address 218.30.21.63
ns2.2dnsserver2.com has address 218.30.21.63
ns7.7dnsserver7.com has address 218.30.21.63
(Some domains on that IP recently moved to 195.95.204.100)
2004-11-11
218.30.21.128/25 -- adjusted to avoid non-spamming domains.

Ref: SBL20876
195.95.204.0/23 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
12-Nov-2004 16:57 GMT | SR03
PrimeInteractive s.r.o spam host
219.153.0.230 is listed in the SBL, in the following records:
* SBL9791
* SBL10762
* SBL16968

Ref: SBL9791


Ref: SBL15130

222.47.94.0/24 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)

01-Apr-2004 08:09 GMT | SR03

Alan Ralsky
222.47.94.0/24 is listed on the Register Of Known Spam Operations
(ROKSO) database as being assigned to, under the control of, or
providing service to a known professional spam operation run by Alan Ralsky.
xce4da4.com
yn8q0a1e3n.xce4da4.com. 1H IN A 222.47.94.112
xce4da4.com. 2D IN NS ns0.nsshapes.com.
xce4da4.com. 2D IN NS ns1.nsshape.com.
ns0.nsshapes.com. 2D IN A 61.141.32.172
ns1.nsshape.com. 2D IN A 219.153.0.101

[DOMAIN whois information on BBLSFYHASQTMOS.WAUY.COM ]
Domain Name: WAUY.COM
http://www.rgnames.com
Whois Server: whois.rgnames.com
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS1.65DNS11.COM 61.186.252.166
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS2.65DNS11.COM 219.153.0.35

219.153.0.35 is listed in the SBL, in the following records:

* SBL9791
* SBL10762
* SBL16968
* SBL21026

Ref: SBL9791
219.152.0.0/15 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
09-Nov-2004 07:59 GMT | SR
ns0.dnstrans.com / greatbizss3.com (escalation)
Ref: SBL10762

219.153.0.0/21 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
31-May-2004 18:53 GMT | SR
Alan Ralsky
219.153.0.0/21 is listed on the Register Of Known Spam Operations
(ROKSO) database as being assigned to, under the control of, or
providing service to a known professional spam operation run by Alan Ralsky.
http://www.safely365.com/ [LOW-COST V-i-@-g-r-a]
March 22 - spammer clustering
# http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL10762
# http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL12165
# http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL11820

219.153.0.0/21 SBL10762 Al Ralsky (USA)
219.153.0.91 SBL10762 Al Ralsky (USA)
219.153.0.101 ns1.nsshape.com
219.153.1.178 SBL10189 Al Ralsky (USA)
219.153.1.179 SBL14235 Al Ralsky
219.153.1.202 SBL13670 Alexey Panov / Al Ralsky (RU/USA)
219.153.1.218 SBL10189
219.153.4.75 George Rand / Carl Henderson
219.153.4.76 George Rand / Carl Henderson
219.153.5.42 SBL11820 Calvin Ho ns4-jp.dnsdomain.biz

Ref: SBL21026
219.153.0.35/32 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
18-Nov-2004 09:16 GMT | SR02
65dns11.com dns434.com spammer DNS / Rolex
18 Nov: spam for fake Rolex

[DOMAIN whois information on OKLUVJE.GRUJ.COM ]
Domain Name: GRUJ.COM
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS1.DNS434.COM 61.186.252.166
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS2.DNS434.COM 219.153.0.35

[DOMAIN whois information on NADUALHN.MEJC.COM ]
Domain Name: MEJC.COM
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS1.DNS434.COM 61.186.252.166
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS2.DNS434.COM 219.153.0.35
Ref: SBL10762

[DOMAIN whois information on LTZRF.ROIEX.COM ]
Domain Name: ROIEX.COM
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS1.DNS889.COM 61.186.252.166
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS2.DNS889.COM 219.153.0.35

ns1.enjoy1here.com. 1H IN A 202.104.237.192 <--- SBL16344



******************************************
* This is the Spammish Inquisition *
* Not Lumber Cartel Unit 75 [TINLC] *
* http://bobcathoh.50megs.com/tinLC/ *
* david l kayp at earthlink dot net *
******************************************

[Todd Dugdale]

Post by David LU

Post by Todd Dugdale
It's becoming clearer that the Rolex spammers are moving to
GVT/ECONOCELL in Brazil. Spamless shows www.onlinereplicastore.com to
be up at three locations: two on GVT and one on CHINANET-CQ.

ALAN RALSKY

<snip SBL listing info>
Thanks. I'm familiar with the SBL listing. I'm not on familiar terms
with dns, however. I'm getting conflicting queries about whether or not
afeet.com is live or dead.

[s***@my-deja.com]

Post by David LU
ALAN RALSKY
Want a cheap Watch?
http://uxa.afeet.com

I read the SBL listings, I didn't see that connection.

You say the rolex spammer is Alan Ralsky? How do you figure?

[David LU]

Post by s***@my-deja.com

Post by David LU
ALAN RALSKY
Want a cheap Watch?
http://uxa.afeet.com

I read the SBL listings, I didn't see that connection.
You say the rolex spammer is Alan Ralsky? How do you figure?

Notice the connection with Soloway.
I have been getting hit constantly with their crap.
I started a file with all the various name registrations and followed
the RBL numbers.
Notice that the DNS servers are all under gandi.net

Domain Name: AFEET.COM
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS1.DNS55789.COM 202.148.47.2
Name Server[from whois+dns, whois ip]: NS2.DNS55789.COM 202.148.47.33
Name Server[from whois+dns, dns ip]: NS2.DNS55789.COM 219.153.0.35

Dead for now.

Ref: SBL10762
219.153.0.0/21 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
31-May-2004 18:53 GMT | SR
Alan Ralsky
219.153.0.0/21 is listed on the Register Of Known Spam Operations
(ROKSO) database as being assigned to, under the control of, or
providing service to a known professional spam operation run by Alan Ralsky.


[DOMAIN whois information on ONLINEREPLICASTORE.COM ]
Domain Name: ONLINEREPLICASTORE.COM
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS1.DNS4432.COM 61.186.252.166
Name Server[whois+dns with ip] NS2.DNS4432.COM 219.153.0.35
Name Server[from whois+dns, whois ip]: NS3.DNS4432.COM 218.7.120.70
Name Server[from whois+dns, dns ip]: NS3.DNS4432.COM 202.148.47.65
Name Server[from whois+dns, whois ip]: NS4.DNS4432.COM 221.4.199.9
Name Server[from whois+dns, dns ip]: NS4.DNS4432.COM 202.148.47.55

-- Ref: SBL20241
221.4.199.0/24 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
15-Nov-2004 05:26 GMT | SR01

Robert Soloway - Newport Internet Marketing
221.4.199.0/24 is listed on the Register Of Known Spam Operations
(ROKSO) database as being assigned to, under the control of, or
providing service to a known professional spam operation run by Robert
Soloway - Newport Internet Marketing.
emailtoday2004.com / NS555.BIZ / Wild Rhino porn spammers

Ref: SBL12875
202.148.32.0/20 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
04-Aug-2004 19:56 GMT | SR02
Spidernet Software Solution Pvt. Ltd - spidernet.net.in

Now go to:

Robert Soloway - Newport Internet Marketing
http://coolsites1.com/sites/cartooncopulations/main.html
http://www.onlinereplicastore.com/

traceroute to ONLINEREPLICASTORE.COM (221.4.199.9), 30 hops max, 40 byte
17 221.4.192.14 (221.4.192.14) 480.438 ms
18 221.4.192.42 (221.4.192.42) 451.143 ms
19 221.4.199.9 (221.4.199.9) 473.603 ms

traceroute to ONLINEREPLICASTORE.COM (200.139.97.123), 30 hops max, 40
byte packets
14 sl-embra1-7-0.sprintlink.net (160.81.108.206) 208.971 ms
15 ebt-P15-0-core01.spo.embratel.net.br (200.230.0.142) 208.971 ms
16 ebt-A2-0-1-dist03.cta.embratel.net.br (200.230.1.137) 224.595 ms
17 200.250.236.10 (200.250.236.10) 225.572 ms
18 200.146.0.82 (200.146.0.82) 231.430 ms
19 200.139.97.123 (200.139.97.123) 224.595 ms

Aha, they have moved.
Need to update SBL entry.

[DOMAIN whois information on ONLINEREPLICASTORE.COM ]
Name Server[from whois+dns, whois ip]: NS1.DNS4432.COM 200.139.97.122
Name Server[from whois+dns, dns ip]: NS1.DNS4432.COM 61.186.252.166
Name Server[from whois+dns, whois ip]: NS2.DNS4432.COM 200.139.97.123
Name Server[from whois+dns, dns ip]: NS2.DNS4432.COM 219.153.0.35
Name Server[from dns, whois+dns ip]: NS4.DNS4432.COM 200.139.97.123
Name Server[from dns, whois+dns ip]: NS3.DNS4432.COM 200.139.97.122

inetnum: 200.139.97.120/29
aut-num: AS18881
abuse-c: GVO6
owner: Econocell do Brasil Ltda
ownerid: 005.122.795/0001-24
responsible: Fabiana Cardoso
address: Avenida Tancredo Neves, 450, centro
address: 41819-900 - Salvador - BA
phone: [phone] []
owner-c: SUE14
tech-c: SUE14
created: 20041123
changed: 20041123
inetnum-up: 200.139.64/18

Other IP numers still in China.

Still using the same DNS however.
I have ben sugesting to the Rolex people that they contact the trade
representative from the country where the website is hosted.

gerard dot orourke at rolex dot com

AFEET.COM
is not resolving for now.


******************************************
* This is the Spammish Inquisition *
* Not Lumber Cartel Unit 75 [TINLC] *
* http://bobcathoh.50megs.com/tinLC/ *
* david l kayp at earthlink dot net *
******************************************

[David LU]

is to BRING RANDOM PIECES OF DATA
* TOGETHER TO GET A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE---WHAT SOME CALL INTELLIGENCE.

Wow. All federal agencies will be linked together in a vast intelligence
network. Handheld fingerprint devices will be deployed. Obviously.

They are working around the limitations Congress wanted on NCIC 2000.

And how much hardware is a handheld fingerprint device?

* "Lucent in New Identification Joint Venture"
* The New York Times, 5/22/97
*
* Lucent Technologies [Bell Labs is their research and development arm] and
* U.S. Venture Partners said today that they had formed a company that would
* make products to help people prove their identities through electronic
* fingerprinting technology.
*
* The first product of the company, Veridicom Inc., will be a postage-size
* fingerprint sensor used to retrieve information, authorize purchases or
* allow entry into restricted areas.
*
* The postage-size sensor will measure the ridges and valleys on the skin
* when a finger is pressed against a silicon chip, and then check the
* measurements against the user's profile.

Not big at all, is it?

# "Faster, More Accurate Fingerprint Matching"
# By Andrea Adelson, The New York Times, October 11 1992
#
# "We think there will be a revolution in fingerprinting," said David F.
# Nemecek, a deputy for the FBI's Information Service Division.
#
# The next step is for manufacturers to make a single-finger mobile scanner

[David LU]

Police had testified in court against Ed Cummings.

The judge determined that a probation violation had indeed taken place
and that Cummings should be held and a sentencing date scheduled within
60 days. The judge had just done the same thing for a man who had just
committed his third DWI offense. In fact, he had killed someone. The
judge ordered that person held on $50,000 bail. Ed Cummings, however,
was another matter. The judge ordered Cummings held on $250,000.
So Cummings was being held on a quarter of a million dollars because he
was thought to have taken batteries out of a tone dialer years ago. He's
in a 5 by 8 holding cell 22 hours a day with no windows and no clock.
He never knows what time it is or whether it's day or night.
The temperature reaches a maximum of sixty degrees and he has only one
layer of thin cotton clothing and one blanket. To add to his misery,
he was just notified that the Haverford Township police will destroy
the property they seized from him last year unless he picks it up by
Friday, January 19.
The prison itself was built right after the Civil War. There are tons of
roaches and graffiti in all the cells which dates back to the fifties
- the last time it was painted. There are 1200 inmates.
Currently Cummings is imprisoned in the maximum wing of the prison where
people with the highest bail are kept. He's with murderers and rapists.
Conditions are appalling. One of the prisoners is on death row - his name
is Joseph Henry and he bit off a woman's nipples and clitoris before
strangling her with a slinky. These are the kinds of people the Secret
Service has condemned Cummings to be with.

Wow.

Pretty heavy for taking batteries out of a dialer.

This outcome is ENTIRELY DUE TO THE SECRET SERVICE.

Specifically: Special Slime Agent Thomas L. Var

[David LU]

For 'public safety and national
security'.

: * "Above the Law"
: * ISBN 0-684-80699-1, 1996
: * by David Burnham
: *
: * The suspicion that the government might one day try to outlaw any
: * encryption device which did not provide easy government access was
: * reinforced by comments made by FBI Director Freeh at a 1994 Washington
: * conference on cryptography. "The objective for us is to get those
: * conversations...wherever they are, whatever they are", he said in
: * response to a question.
: *
: * Freeh indicated that if five years from now the FBI had solved the
: * access problem but was only hearing encrypted messages, further
: * legislation might be required.
: *
: * The obvious solution: a federal law prohibiting the use of any
: * cryptographic device that did not provide government access.
: *
: * Freeh's hints that the government might have to outlaw certain kinds
: * of coding devices gradually became more explicit. "The drug cartels
: * are buying sophisticated communications equipment", he told Congress.
: * "Unless the encryption issue is RESOLVED soon, criminal conversations
: * over the telephone and other communications devices will become
: * indecipherable by law enforcement. This, as much as any issue,
: * jeopardizes the public safety and national security of this country."

Louis Freeh, banging the Drums of War.


It's official:

* Loading Image...
*
* SECRET FBI report
*
* NEED FOR A NATIONAL POLICY
*
* A national policy embodied in legislation is needed which insures
* that cryptography use in the United States should be forced to be
* crackable by law enforcement, so such communications can be monitored
* with real-time decryption.
*
* All cryptography that cannot meet this standard should be prohibited.

[David LU]

freedom not only in Australia, but
* the entire planet will ever see.
*
* The NSA grew out of the post war "Signals Intelligence" section of the
* U.S. War Department. It is unique amongst government organizations in
* America, and indeed most other countries, in that there are NO specified
* or defined limits to its powers.
*
* The NSA can (and does) do just about whatever it wants, whenever, and
* wherever it wants. Although little known in both the U.S. and elsewhere,
* the NSA is quite literally the most powerful organization in the world.
*
* Not limited by any law, and answerable only to the U.S. National Security
* Council through COMSEC, the NSA now controls an information and
* surveillance network around the globe that even Orwell, in his novel
* "1984", could not have imagined.
*
* Most people believe that the current "computer age" grew out of either
* the space program or the nuclear weapons race; it did not.
*
* ALL significant advances in computer technology over the last thirty
* years, from the very beginnings of IBM, through to the super computers
* of today, have been for the NSA. In fact, the world's very first super
* computer, the awe-inspiring CRAY, was built to specification for the
* NSA, and installed in their headquarters in 1976.
*
* The entire twentieth century of development of computer technology has
* been the result of the NSA's unquenchable thirst for ever bigger, ever
* faster machines on which to collect, collate, and cross-reference data
* on hundreds of millions of honest, law-abiding, and totally unsuspecting
* individuals. And not only in America, but in many other countries as
* well. Including, as we shall see, Australia.

[
"The Rise of the Computer State", David Burnham, 1984

p134: ...the technical advances that were occurring did so not entirely
by chance. The compute

[David LU]

of laws against

crime and throw many people in prison, crime will soon stop.
Well, it sounded reasonable when the managers said it about warning people
email was being monitored and firing people.
Even I was amazed at how wrong they were.
That it didn't slack off (for more than two weeks) after warning people
again and again.
Note that this email occurred days after Brain's area had been
notified that their traffic was being watched.
date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 15:55:42 -0400
To: <Harvard female>
We were notified today in a firm-wide memo that our email going in/out
the Internet is now being monitored. Big brother has arrived.
date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 18:04:48 -0400
I've been thinking about it for a while, and I'm pretty sure I'm going
to resign at Salomon shortly.
A couple more big clients for our WWW site and even though it's less
than half of my current income, I'll finally be able to devote myself
full-time to the business. Yeah!
F*** that would be awesome (pardon my language).

Remember the person the FBI was investigating for theft of Risk Management
source code? His manager told him and all the other employees in their
group that their email was being monitored. The manager told both me, Salo

[David LU]

through electronic
* fingerprinting technology.
*
* The first product of the company, Veridicom Inc., will be a postage-size
* fingerprint sensor used to retrieve information, authorize purchases or
* allow entry into restricted areas.
*
* The postage-size sensor will measure the ridges and valleys on the skin
* when a finger is pressed against a silicon chip, and then check the
* measurements against the user's profile.

Not big at all, is it?

# "Faster, More Accurate Fingerprint Matching"
# By Andrea Adelson, The New York Times, October 11 1992
#
# "We think there will be a revolution in fingerprinting," said David F.
# Nemecek, a deputy for the FBI's Information Service Division.
#
# The next step is for manufacturers to make a single-finger mobile scanner
# for use in patrol cars. Some FBI cars are expected to get them next year.

$ "The Body As Password", By Ann Davis, Wired Magazine, July 1997
$
$ In October 1995, the Federal Highway Administration awarded a $400,000
$ contract to San Jose State University's College of Engineering to develop
$ standards for a "biometric identifier

[David LU]

day, and Virginia Bernard thought the
* caller was one of her friends pulling a practical joke. Her husband, an
* ex-IRS official got on the phone, and after a brief discussion was
* convinced the man really was an FBI agent.
*
* Agent Emmett arrived: The seventy-three-year-old part-time teacher was
* asked: "why did you subscribe to 'Soviet Life' and why did you write to
* the Soviet embassy?"
*
* "I need to clear this up. It's in the interest of national security."
*
* With the invocation of the sacred words "national security," one of
* the most powerful mantras of the long-lived Cold War, Mrs. Bernard's
* seventy-nine-year-old husband burst out laughing. At any time, it
* would have been hard to imaging the connection between his wife and
* the fearsome world of espionage, the arms race and Check Point Charlie.
*
* But the wall had fallen, and Russia had a complete upheaval too. The FBI
* agent's linkage of his wife to "national security" seemed absurd. The
* agent, however, did not share George's amused astonishment.
*
* "Don't mock me," the couple remembers Emmett warning them.
*
* She had subscribed to the magazine for its impressive photography, and
* had written to the Soviet embassy to thank them for sending an icebreaker
* to free some whales, as suggested by a television show host.

How foolish of her to put her real name and return address on the letter.

[David LU]

diplomatic cables containing both the
words 'Suva' and 'aid', or cables containing the word 'Suva' but NOT the
word 'consul' (to avoid the masses of routine consular communications).

It is these sets of words and numbers (and combinations of them), under a
particular category, that are placed in the Dictionary computers.

The whole system was developed by the NSA.


P51-
The only known public reference to the ECHELON system was made in relation to
the Menwith Hill station. In July 1988, a United States newspaper, the
Cleveland Plain Dealer, published a story about electronic monitoring of
phone calls of a Republican senator, Strom Thurmond. The alleged monitoring
occurred at Menwith Hill.

Margaret Newsham worked at Menwith Hill as a contract employee of Lockheed
Space and Missiles Corporation. She is said to have told congress staff that,
while at Menwith, she was able to listen through earphones to telephone calls
being monitored.

When investigators subpoenaed witnesses and sought access to plans and manuals
for the ECHELON system, they found there were no formal controls over who
could be targeted; junior staff were able to feed in target names to be
searched for by the computers without any check of their authorization to
do so.

None of this is surprising and it is likely to be insignificant compared with
official abuse of the system.

The capabilities of the ECHELON system are so great, and the secrecy
surrounding it makes it so impervious to democratic oversite, that the
temptation to use it for questionable projects seems irresistible.


In June 1992 a group of current 'highly placed intelligence operatives' from
the British GCHQ spoke to the paper Observer: 'We feel we can no longer remain
silent regarding that which we regard to be gross malpractice and negligence
within the establishment in which we operate.'

They gave as examples GCHQ interception of three charitable

[David LU]

is an executive order, it can be changed
at any time at the whim of a President, without so much as a nod toward
Congress.

P471: On January 24, 1978, President Jimmy Carter issued an executive order
imposing detailed restrictions on the nation's intelligence community. The
order was designed to prevent the long list of abuses of the 1960s and 1970s.

But four years later President Ronald Reagan scrapped the Carter order and
broadened considerably the power of the spy agencies to operate domestically.

P473: Under the Reagan executive order, the NSA can now, apparently, be
authorized to lend its full support - analysts as well as computers - to
"any department or agency" in the federal government and, "when lives are
endangered," even to local police departments.

[ Yea billions of dollars a year military SIGINT support technology...
oh so invisible in its great mass.

A total blurring of the lines between Military
and civilian control of the domestic population.
]


P475-477: Like an ever-widening sinkhole, the NSA's surveillance technology
will continue to expand, quietly pulling in more and more communications and
gradually eliminating more and more privacy.

If there are defenses to such technotyranny, it would appear, at least from
past experience, that they will not come from Congress.

Rather, they will most li

[David LU]

DATA INSTANTLY AVAILABLE TO FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL
* LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS.
*
* The federal government's goal is to BRING RANDOM PIECES OF DATA
* TOGETHER TO GET A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE---WHAT SOME CALL INTELLIGENCE.

Wow. All federal agencies will be linked together in a vast intelligence
network. Handheld fingerprint devices will be deployed. Obviously.

They are working around the limitations Congress wanted on NCIC 2000.

And how much hardware is a handheld fingerprint device?

* "Lucent in New Identification Joint Venture"
* The New York Times, 5/22/97
*
* Lucent Technologies [Bell Labs is their research and development arm] and
* U.S. Venture Partners said today that they had formed a company that would
* make products to help people prove their identities through electronic
* fingerprinting technology.
*
* The first product of the company, Veridicom Inc., will be a postage-size
* fingerprint sensor used to retrieve information, authorize purchases or
* allow entry into restricted areas.
*
* The postage-size sensor will measure the ridges and valleys on the skin
* when a finger is pressed against a silicon chip, and then check the
* measurements against the user's profile.

Not big at all, is it?

# "Faster, More Accurate Fingerprint Matching"
# By Andrea Adelson, The New York Times, October 11 1992
#
# "We think there will be a revolution in fingerprinting," said David F.
# Nemecek, a deputy for the FBI's Information Service Division.
#
# The next step is for manufacturers to make a single-finger mobile scanner
# for use in patrol cars. Some FBI cars are expected to get them next year.

$ "The Body As Password", By Ann Davis, Wired Magazine, July 1997
$
$ In October 1995, the Federal Highway Administration awarded a $400,000
$ contract to San Jose State University's College of Engineering to develop
$ standards for a "biometric identifier" on co

[David LU]

#
# Senator Bob Dole wants the government to conduct a three-year study to
# unify federal and local requirements for personal identity.
#
# The bill, S1706, would amend the Federal False Id Act of 1982, to require
# a comprehensive identity scheme for the U.S., either THROUGH UPDATING
# EXISTING IDs TO BE MORE SECURE, UNIFYING THEM, or creating a new identity
# document for all Americans.

----

People will "demand" it...

Texe Marrs knows about politicians beating the Drum of War to control us...

* "Project L.U.C.I.D.", by Texe Marrs, 1996, ISBN 1-884302-02-5
*
* These changes are necessary, we are reminded each day by our mind control
* jailers in the media, to solve the immigration crises, to institute gun
* control, to counter domestic terrorism, to fight pornography [Texe Marrs
* is now a Christian preacher!], to find deadbeat dads who don't pay child
* support, to "Save Mother Earth",
[
"The Feds Under Our Beds", By James Bovard, The New York Times, 9/6/1995

The Superfund program epitomizes the Government's contempt for fairness.
E.P.A. lawyers have gone after Boy Scout troops, public schools and pizza
parlors, claiming the organizations can be held responsible for multi-
million-dollar cleanup costs of Superfund sites---even though they may
have sent only one or two loads of HARMLESS junk to the CONTAMINATED site.

The agency found an Oklahoma tuxedo rental store liable for cleanup costs
of an entire site, simply because the owner had paid a trash hauler $14 to
carry a load of refuse to the dump.
]
* to war against drug kingpins, to stop crime in the streets, to watch and
* monitor the militias, to put an end to hate crimes and bigotry,
[
"The Feds Under Our Beds", By James Bovard, The New York Times, 9/6/1995

[David LU]

* totalitarian state, observed that very few people are awake and alert
* to the machinations and manipulations of the controllers. Thus, the
* people, as a whole, fall victim to a colossal conspiracy out of ignorance
* and because of apathy and denial of reality:
*
* The people could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of
* reality, because they never fully grasped the enormity of what was
* demanded of them, and were not sufficiently interested in public
* events to notice what was happening.
[
By Walter Cronkite: "Orwell's '1984'---Nearing?", NYT, June 5 1983

In our world, where a Vietnam village can be destroyed so it can be
saved; where the President names the latest thing in nuclear missiles
"Peacekeeper"---in such a world, can the Orwellian vision be very far
away?

Big Brother's ears have plugs in them right now (or they are, by law,
supposed to), at least on the domestic telephone and cable traffic.

But the National Security Agency's ability to monitor microwave
transmissions, to scoop out of the air VAST numbers of communications,
including telephone conversations, store them in computers, play them
back later, has a truly frightening potential for abuse.

[David LU]

knew, they would be STUNNED that our leaders would lie so boldly to
us, including Mr. Kantor, to protect ECHELON.

That the public would misunderstand Kantor and Clinton to think they are
offering a "reasonable compromise"...even though what is actually happening
is our government demanding you lose all right to privacy, that we must give
the government a copy of our personal security key.


******************************************************************************
******************************************************************************
******************************************************************************


Part 6: Louis Freeh & The Creeping Police State
---- - ----- ----- --- -------- ------ -----

o Louis Freeh
o National ID Card
o Worldwide Banking and Phone Monitoring
o Cybernetic Control of Society
o Conclusions


******************************************************************************

[David LU]

Magazine, July 1997
#
# No federal action is planned to end the ban on federal funding for needle
# exchange programs by the Clinton Administration, despite mounting scienti-
# fic evidence that shooting up with unclean needles is the second most
# common risk behavior (40%) for HIV infection.
#
# It is a very cost-effective way of saving lives.
#
# SIX federally funded studies done between 1991 to 1995 concluded that
# needle exchange programs reduce HIV transmission and do not encourage
# drug use.
#
# Someone who spoke with Senator Arlene Spector said that "Noone's willing
# to take the political step."
#
# Instead, the biggest federal funding for AIDS prevention in 1996 went to
# programs urging teenagers to abstain from sex ["have sex outside marriage
# and you could DIE"].
#
# The National Institute of Health concluded: "The behavior placing the
# public health at greatest risk may be occurring in legislative and other
# decision making bodies. Millions of unnecessary deaths will occur as a
# result."
#
# The Surgeon General has the power to revoke the ban unilaterally.


Ever see the full page ad showing a group of sweet kids,
asking you to spot which one will become the drug pusher?

That's how the government views us little people: all are potentially guilty.

The government hysteria over drugs has led to students being suspended
for having Advil, under school Zero Tolerance for drugs policy.

Reefer madness leads to Advil insanity.

It is a "gateway" madness. ;-)

No wonder kids don't respect the government's anti-drug crusades.

They are subject to random drug testing if they want to play sports.

* Boston Globe, June 12, 1997
*
* PORTSMOUTH, N.H. (AP) - A full-time plainclothes police officer and
* drug-sniffing dogs will be put to work at Portsmouth High School to
* control drug use. The plan also ca

[David LU]

National Guard to let them know the
# individual was on his way home. In this way, the FBI assisted, over a
# three-year period, the work of the Salvadoran death squads.

That's right: the FBI murders people.

* "FBI Killed Unarmed Man, Inquiry Shows", The New York Times, 1/14/97
*
* A 21-year-old murder suspect who the FBI said they shot only after he
* opened fire on them, was unarmed when he was killed.
*
* A spokesman for the FBI, Ann Todd, declined to discuss the discrepancy
* between the FBI's initial report that Mr. Byrd had shot at members of
* the FBI task force and the subsequent discovery by the Union County
* Prosecutor that he was unarmed.
*
* The FBI shot Mr. Byrd to death as he hid under a bed from them.


The FBI had Varelli "plant" a gun.

Thus giving CISPES a terrorist organization designation.

Not only did the FBI hassle them big time, but also the FBI/NSA broke
nationwide into homes and offices that were associated with them and
many other groups, including lawyers offices and churches.

In almost every incident, documents and files were ransacked while office
equipment and other valuable items were left untouched.

# "Foes of Reagan Latin American Policies Fear They're Under Surveillance"
# By David Burnham, The New York Times, April 19, 198?
#
# Among those who have cited incidents Sara Murray, staff organizer with
# the Michigan Interfaith Committee on Central American Rights, said that
# her organization made three separate first-class mailings in the last
#

[David LU]

would soon stop the proprietary/confidential transfers.

It turned out to be like saying if we have a slew of laws against
crime and throw many people in prison, crime will soon stop.
Well, it sounded reasonable when the managers said it about warning people
email was being monitored and firing people.
Even I was amazed at how wrong they were.
That it didn't slack off (for more than two weeks) after warning people
again and again.
Note that this email occurred days after Brain's area had been
notified that their traffic was being watched.
date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 15:55:42 -0400
To: <Harvard female>
We were notified today in a firm-wide memo that our email going in/out
the Internet is now being monitored. Big brother has arrived.
date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 18:04:48 -0400
I've been thinking about it for a while, and I'm pretty sure I'm going
to resign at Salomon shortly.
A couple more big clients for our WWW site and even though it's less
than half of my current income,

[David LU]

permissible.


What is this?

* Subject: Re: Law Enforcement Aviation
* From: ***@imap2.asu.edu
* Date: 1996/12/27
* Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military
*
* What interests me is how new technologies will be interpreted. I recently
* inquired at the local Law School about the courts views towards the use
* of impulse radar, and they said "Impulse what the heck?"
*
* Basically it is a radar that "sees through" things (like, say, your
* house).
*
* Their capabilities vary widely, but the feds are already using
* them and I know that Hughes corp. is designing a low-cost set up
* specifically for major police departments.
*
* They are driving towards a unit that can be mounted on a police helicopter.
*
* Will the police need a warrant? Who knows. Since they are allowed
* to do airborne infra-red analysis of your house, why not an take an
* airborne "x-ray" equivalent?
*
* ---------------------------------------------------------------------
* Steven J Forsberg at ***@imap2.asu.edu Wizard 87-01

Scan into our homes? This should not come as much of a surprise since in the
"War #1: Drugs" section I re-reported that MSNBC SHOWED a police car mounted
device that scans THROUGH our clothes as they drive around.

No amount of control over the population is enough for the U.S. Government.

----

And so, you would be required to carry your National ID Card at all times.

And: it means the government can wildly escalate their control over us.

It becomes an internal passport. You won't be able to switch jobs without it.
Your job histories will be attached to it, just like your SS# tracks your
credit record. Police will be able t

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[Todd Dugdale]

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[David LU]

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[David LU]

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you who supported any version of the FBI/NSA Digital Telephony Act
sold us down the river, making use of this Orwellian Military technology
fully legal domestically for the first time.

The descent into the abyss, from which there is no return.


: * "Above the Law", by David Burnham, ISBN 0-684-80699-1, 1996
: *
: * [ Al Bayse was assistant director of the FBI's Technical Services
: * Division, in charge of spending more than half a billion dollars
: * for research, development and computer operations. ]
: *
: * "Sure", said Al Bayse of the FBI, "I believe there is an absolute
: * right to privacy. But that doesn't mean you have the right to break
: * the law in a serious way. Any private conversation that doesn't
: * involve criminality should be private"
: *
: * In other words, as the debate was framed by Bayse, the right to
: * privacy is at least partly contingent on a determination by an FBI
: * agent or clerk that the conversations they already intercepted and
: * understood do not involve a crime.


Do you want to live in a real live Big Brother world?

It is not at all about trying to keep up with technology in order to wiretap.

The phone companies are already able and authorized to listen in on any
line at any time, to check the integrity of the network.

I've heard some funny stories by old Bell System employees about a bunch of
people listening into private conversations, and having a hoot.

Question: How can the FBI use computers to monitor thousands and thousands
and thousands and thousands of phone calls simultaneously, as they
said they would do with the bill, when we Americans speak so many
different accents and languages?

Answer: Thirty years of fine tuning by the NSA, y'all.


The

[Jeff Higgins]

* security program for our retirement in years to come, right? The old
* cards said, "Not for identification purposes." Now, you can't get a
* BANK ACCOUNT without one, and your money and financial transactions are
* reported to goons and thugs at the IRS who are happy to steal money from
* grandmothers. In fact, the IRS can get your bank records WITHOUT YOUR
* PERMISSION.
[
: ftp ftp.fourmilab.ch, cd /pub/kelvin/documents, get unicard.doc
For more than a decade, the United States Internal Revenue Service
has allowed taxpayers with only regular wage income and the
standard deduction to simply sign their return and have the IRS
calculate the tax. With increased reporting of all financial
transactions to the IRS by banks, stockbrokers, mutual funds, real
estate title companies, etc., IRS officials have stated on several
occasions over the last few years that the day when the
overwhelming number of taxpayers could have their taxes calculated
automatically was not very far in the future.
]
* Again, telling people to get a "social security" number was
* about CONTROL, not "protecting" us. Who is in control now? (Did you
* know you are not REQUIRED to have or use a social security number by ANY
* law?)
*
* Being required to pay money to the state for these licenses means
* that licensing is also another form of TAX. Did YOU get to vote on
* whether the police could "require" you to give up your fingerprints and
* private information or put any of that on a "license" in a bar-code, or
* put it in their computers? NO? Neither did the Alabama legislature.
* THAT IS TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
*
* If DPS gets by with this, the information on your driver's licens

[Jeff Higgins]

in Nazi
* concentration camps. Survivors still bear the dreaded tattoo markings
* to this day.
*
* Mr. Anderson described the stunned reaction of those present, "There were
* several gasps around the table. A couple cabinet members looked as if they
* had been slapped. No one said anything for a long time."
*
* Ronald Reagan, a consummately wise politician who professed a belief in
* Bible prophecy, caught the implication [about The Mark of the Devil].
*
* He then hushed the cabinet and efficiently dismissed the National ID Card
* proposal by sardonically remarking, "Maybe we should just brand all babies."



"Those that give up essential liberty for a little
security, deserve neither liberty nor security."
- Ben Franklin


"When ID's are mandatory, it is time to leave the planet."
- Robert Heinlein


* "Project L.U.C.I.D.", by Texe Marrs, 1996, ISBN 1-884302-02-5
*
* In the November 1994 publication of the FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin,
* the FBI advocated BIOMETRIC CAPTURE FOR ALL NEWBORN BABIES AND
* SIMULTANEOUSLY THEIR MOTHERS.


******************************************************************************


Worldwide Banking and Phone Monitoring
--------- ------- --- ----- ----------

Newspeak: "It's never been abused, and we are doing this to protect you."

* Dorothy "DoubleThink" Denning, "Encryption and Law Enf